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Old 3rd Oct 2023, 10:43
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Originally Posted by Le Tirer
Can anyone confirm what stand 13 is marked as on the ground. From Google Maps all the other stands are clearly numbered 1 - 12 & 14 but stand 13 looks more like BEA. Are they avoiding 'unlucky' 13?

Also the map used by Planefinder labels all the stands apart from stand 6!

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Fly BEA is a luxury charter airline to the Channel Islands
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Old 3rd Oct 2023, 10:53
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Fly BEA is a luxury charter airline to the Channel Islands = air taxi company
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Old 3rd Oct 2023, 13:07
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Thanks SouthernAlliance and SWBKCB for the replies.

I have heard of BEA (Britsh European Airways) and Birmingham Executive Airways (later Birmingham European Airways) from the distant past! I wasn't aware of FlyBEA (British European Aviation) but I see from their website they have been at SOU since July 2021 using the Heli Air AOC. I guess I was right in saying the stand has been marked as BEA rather than 13?

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Old 3rd Oct 2023, 15:22
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
When originally built Stand 1 was a full size Stand. Sometime after completion of the Terminal the large building to the west of it, I believe called "Solent House", was constructed which required reduction of Stand 1 size.
Yeah sure I'm aware of that fact but I didn't find it necessary to add that information in my previous post.
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Old 3rd Oct 2023, 16:47
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Originally Posted by Le Tirer
Can anyone confirm what stand 13 is marked as on the ground. From Google Maps all the other stands are clearly numbered 1 - 12 & 14 but stand 13 looks more like BEA. Are they avoiding 'unlucky' 13?

Also the map used by Planefinder labels all the stands apart from stand 6!

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The current Google Earth imagery was taken in March 2022, so how current is it?

The UK AIP lists Stands 1-14 as available. The current AIP Parking/Docking Chart also shows Stands 13 and 14.

If the lead in markings still show "BEA" and it is to be a permanent feature an appropriate change needs to be made to the AIP. If the markings are temporary it should be notified via NOTAM. Either way AGS have a legal obligation to ensure that aerodrome information is kept current.

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Old 4th Oct 2023, 20:53
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Originally Posted by SouthernAlliance
I know it’s been said many a time before but Eastern are truly shocking. Once again the ORY is delayed because their aircraft is being positioned in after the scheduled departure and 2.5hrs late. This happens on a regular basis and how anyone can book this route with any certainty is beyond me!
Today’s flight was 11 hours late. New record?
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Old 5th Oct 2023, 09:32
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
We're have to see when the works are completed. No good speculating at this stage because nothing has been confirmed regarding the recent notam. What we are aware of is that stands 2-5 are eventually going to be realigned.

Without going into too much detail I suggest that you search online as there are diagrams showing the new stands including the supposed relocation of stand 1.

A lot of airports troughout the world have the same flexible stands as you have pointed out in your post. It's not just your local airport. For various reasons I can't see Southampton having a similar arrangement to be honest.
Have seen it posted elsewhere that the NOTAM is indeed for stand realignment and will utilise a standard 1-4 configuration with no flexible capability
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Old 5th Oct 2023, 14:10
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Eastern Airways

Eastern Airways T3243 to Paris Orly scheduled for 06.30 got airborne at 10.59.

That's almost a 4.5 hour delay.

Other posters have mentioned the same situation occurring almost on a daily basis.

We have to ask ourselves or more to the point Eastern Airways have to ask themselves, "what the heck is going on"?

Eastern Airways are indeed an embarrassment of an airline, they are a total shambles. We can only hope that at some point Air France might resume their own flights between Paris CDG to Southampton.

Southampton Airport and the passenger's that use it need a more reliable airline than the totally pathetic Eastern Airways.

I was looking for flights departing this week to Paris Orly. Examples I came across were £288 single compared to flying with British Airways from LHR to CDG for £89 (even cheaper if I was to use my Avios miles). I'm not even going to make any further comments regarding their ridiculous pricing policy.
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Old 5th Oct 2023, 14:26
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I can't see the details for yesterday's flight but based on today and the last 4 flights on FR24 (not included the cancelled flight on the 30th September) the average delay is 2 hours 20 mins.

That's pretty appalling.
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Old 6th Oct 2023, 13:24
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Originally Posted by SolentAir
A good friend of mine works as route development for Easyjet, I caught up with him the other day and asked him about Southampton. He advised that AGS has not had any communication with them recently reference expanding from Southampton, the last communication they had was to do with the Belfast and Glasgow routes.
Or negotiations for next summer have already taken place/been agreed several months ago and there is nothing at present to discuss? Just a thought and could of course be wrong!

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Old 6th Oct 2023, 15:03
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People will be looking to plan there holiday for next year in the next few weeks,so if there is any airline that is going to operate to any sun routes next year,anouncements are needed pronto! .Its not going to be Easy holidays as they are already in place .Only W patterns from certain airfields that have based aircraft is possible(like winter Geneva).
As time goes on its not looking to be that hopeful,however theres 2025 to look forward to.


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People will be looking to plan there holiday for next year in the next few weeks,so if there is any airline that is going to operate to any sun routes next year,anouncements are needed pronto! .Its not going to be Easy holidays as they are already in place .Only W patterns from certain airfields that have based aircraft is possible(like winter Geneva).
As time goes on it’s not looking to be that hopeful,however theres 2025 to look forward to.
My understanding is that projected PAX figures for 2023 are 800K and 1 million in 2024.

Am cautiously confident that the 2024 figure is not something that has been plucked from the air and consequently there is something yet to be announced. Guess that we will have to be patient.

Sincerely doubt that the 200K increase is coming from Eastern’s ORY service!
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Old 9th Oct 2023, 06:17
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https://www.eastleighnews.co.uk/2023...eet-on-friday/

The next meeting of Southampton Airport Consultative Committee will take place at 2 pm on Friday, October 6
The session is scheduled to include a detailed presentation from the interim director of airport operations, focusing on the airport’s present trading and operational status. In particular the impact of the recently completed 164-metre extension to the airport’s runway.
Eastleigh residents are encouraged to attend the meeting to gain insights into the airport’s strategic initiatives and voice their opinions on matters impacting the community.
This would have been the ideal meeting to announce new routes together with a press release yet nothing with not even a hint of pending new routes coming out of the meeting it would seem. I am also somewhat surprised that no one from this thread appears to have attended.

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Airlines usually decide when new routes get announced
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Originally Posted by LTNman
https://www.eastleighnews.co.uk/2023...eet-on-friday/

This would have been the ideal meeting to announce new routes together with a press release yet nothing with not even a hint of pending new routes coming out of the meeting it would seem. I am also somewhat surprised that no one from this thread appears to have attended.
I can't think of a single route announced to a consultative committee. Airlines and the airport's PR department will decide on the timing. Usually something that will maximise attention or works best for both sides. A consultative committee of staff and local councillors/busybodies is very low down the list.
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A certain someone seems to be stirring the pot again. I’m pretty confident something will be announced shortly and if the airports target of 1m for 2024 has any likelihood of being achieved!
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For info, Technical Working Group meeting held on 31/08 and from the notes it states the airports then Ops Dir expected an airline to announce in October. Guess this aligns with other posters comments

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ACL's slot allocation for summer '24 should be out this week. Whilst not definitive I would say it will be a very strong indicator as to whether anything will be happening next summer.
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Old 9th Oct 2023, 15:42
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Originally Posted by SouthernAlliance
A certain someone seems to be stirring the pot again. I’m pretty confident something will be announced shortly and if the airports target of 1m for 2024 has any likelihood of being achieved!
Totally agree with the first sentence, just topping up the near constant stream of drivel flowing down the M1. Wish I could bottle he/she/it’s posts, I’d have award winning roses!

With invariably a public attendance that could be counted on one hand or less, and not something that regularly attracts media coverage, the Consultative Committee meetings are definitely not the preferred method of first announcing new routes/operator. The term “press release” springs to mind?
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN
Totally agree with the first sentence, just topping up the near constant stream of drivel flowing down the M1. Wish I could bottle he/she/it’s posts, I’d have award winning roses!

With invariably a public attendance that could be counted on one hand or less, and not something that regularly attracts media coverage, the Consultative Committee meetings are definitely not the preferred method of first announcing new routes/operator. The term “press release” springs to mind?
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Everybody talking about Summer routes,but given the new declared distances,surely the Canaries is a winter possibility in the future?
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