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Old 12th Feb 2022, 08:45
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Are back up to twice a day on some days. Nice to see a lift in activity. Whizz very soon.
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It’s been reported that Flybe (MK.2) are going to announce their routes this week……

I wonder if we will see them operate through CWL on a regular basis ? Both BHD & JER would fit in nicely for them if they were to consider CWL…..non base obviously so “W” pattern with either BHD or BHX.

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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
It’s been reported that Flybe (MK.2) are going to announce their routes this week……

I wonder if we will see them operate through CWL on a regular basis ? Both BHD & JER would fit in nicely for them if they were to consider CWL…..non base obviously so “W” pattern with either BHD or BHX.
Personally I'd be very surprised if see anything for Cardiff from them. But you never know what might happen.
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Originally Posted by cymru
Are back up to twice a day on some days. Nice to see a lift in activity. Whizz very soon.
Pretty sure those extra flights are just for the Six Nations. Personally I can't see double daily flights returning for a while yet.
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
It’s been reported that Flybe (MK.2) are going to announce their routes this week……

I wonder if we will see them operate through CWL on a regular basis ? Both BHD & JER would fit in nicely for them if they were to consider CWL…..non base obviously so “W” pattern with either BHD or BHX.
Be interesteing to see if Flybe will Code Share or have an other agreement with Eastern or not
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The new Flybe has had a lot of criticism etc over name, situation etc. BHX is the new HDQ and I think BHD new base. There cannot be many U.K. airports left without little or nil competition from the likes of EZY, BA, LS, FR on domestic routes so guess that is a positive thing for CWL.

Cannot see a base at CWL but would certainly not rule out a “W” pattern especially to JER during Summer 2022 and possibly BHD itself. EI (Stobart) was due to start CWL but they’ve not listed CWL as initial destinations so another opportunity for Flybe maybe?

Anyway best of luck to Flybe where ever they end up flying !

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Any news on the Anglesey flights.
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Originally Posted by daz211
Any news on the Anglesey flights.
I'd be very surprised if that route ever restarts.
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Flybe

Been commented on the Flybe post that these are the routes they are looking to introduce:

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BHX-JER
BHX-BHD
BHD-CWL
BHD-NCL
BHD-LPL

Great to see CWL listed and great to see BHD back should this be true ! Hopefully JER will be back soon too.
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Considering Wizz U.K. (W9) are the new kids on the block for CWL next month, you’d have thought someone from CWL would have updated the airport FIDS system to show W9 as Wizz and not EastWind Capital Partners Inc (whoever they maybe).

There was a BFS flight this week plus French Rugby charters over next few days…..

The same can be said for the “LI” flight from CDG on Wednesday - this showing on the airport website as LIAT (based in Antigua)……very doubtful indeed a Dash 8 would be doing this flight !!! It is actually in fact a new Croatian airline called ETF Airways.

As small and trivial as it sounds during these awful times, this needs updating to reflect the airlines and such a simple job to do…..the handling agents should update the systems when the flights are input…..simples


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Flybe

Flybe have announced they will place on sale and launch their new U.K. routes on Tuesday (22nd)…..I wonder will we see a BHD sector ??

Any thoughts or will CWL miss out

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PAX Numbers

Does anybody have PAX numbers for Cardiff for the last few months? Also great to see Wizz on the boards and finally getting going on Friday
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CAA terminal passenger figures for winter months to date at CWL:

November 2021 21,330, + 739% on the previous year
December 2021 15,390, + 1750%
January 2022 10,664, + 1704%
February 2022 18,674, + 1279%

In an interview this week the airport CEO said he is hoping for around 800,000 passengers during this calendar year which would be around 50% of the pre-pandemic annual figure. Recently the airport projected a return to pre-pandemic passenger levels by 2026 but that might well come much sooner especially if the Wizz Air initiative becomes the success that the airport is looking to achieve.
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I think most airlines and airports were expecting numbers to recover to 2019 levels by the mid-2020s. It does seem that this might happen faster though. Quite possibly by 2023 in many cases.

In Cardiff's case, it is highly dependent on Wizz and if they can make a success of the base there.
There's a big local media push by Wizz again just as flights launch. This was in the Western Mail today - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...wants-23619169

The boss of low-cost carrier Wizz Air UK says there is potential to bring more routes to Cardiff Airport as it launches a new base with nine destinations.

Managing director of the fast-expanding airline, Marion Geoffroy, said bookings for its inaugural summer season, which commences tomorrow from the Rhoose-based airport with flights to to Spain, Portugal, Cyprus and Egypt, were encouraging.

Asked if there was potential for Wizz Air to expand in the future, Ms Geoffroy said: “When we open a base we believe it is a permanent one which is going to grow as well. From Cardiff it is a full leisure type of traffic today serving places such as Greece, Egypt, Spain and the Canary Islands.

"We have also designed a winter network and a commercial plan to some winter sun destinations. As there is more maturity in this market, we don’t exclude starting at some point some central and eastern European routes as we believe demand is there and awareness too.
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Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer
CAA terminal passenger figures for winter months to date at CWL:

November 2021 21,330, + 739% on the previous year
December 2021 15,390, + 1750%
January 2022 10,664, + 1704%
February 2022 18,674, + 1279%

In an interview this week the airport CEO said he is hoping for around 800,000 passengers during this calendar year which would be around 50% of the pre-pandemic annual figure. Recently the airport projected a return to pre-pandemic passenger levels by 2026 but that might well come much sooner especially if the Wizz Air initiative becomes the success that the airport is looking to achieve.
800k is a long way off when they only had 29k in first two months!
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Old 7th Apr 2022, 18:25
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I wonder if this Wizz quote below in the press means a potential 2nd aircraft and new winter routes ? Be also great to see some East European city break destinations such as PRG, BUD or KRK

“We have also designed a winter network and a commercial plan to some winter sun destinations. As there is more maturity in this market, we don’t exclude starting at some point some central and eastern European routes as we believe demand is there and awareness too”.



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i doubt you’ll see anything significant in terms of new Eastern European routes…
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Old 7th Apr 2022, 18:59
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
I wonder if this Wizz quote below in the press means a potential 2nd aircraft and new winter routes ? Be also great to see some East European city break destinations such as PRG, BUD or KRK

“We have also designed a winter network and a commercial plan to some winter sun destinations. As there is more maturity in this market, we don’t exclude starting at some point some central and eastern European routes as we believe demand is there and awareness too”.
im taking that as the winter schedule that they’ve already released. I very much doubt they’d expand in winter without seeing how things pan out first with regards to the local market.

I’ve no doubt they will expand at CWL but hope they’ll grow organically and slowly rather than huge, fail and leave.
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Old 7th Apr 2022, 20:15
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
I wonder if this Wizz quote below in the press means a potential 2nd aircraft and new winter routes ? Be also great to see some East European city break destinations such as PRG, BUD or KRK

“We have also designed a winter network and a commercial plan to some winter sun destinations. As there is more maturity in this market, we don’t exclude starting at some point some central and eastern European routes as we believe demand is there and awareness too”.
Pretty much as it says. They have "designed", not "are designing" a winter network and commercial plan - The current routes on sale that they believe to be viable in the Winter.
"As there is more maturity in this market" - Meaning winter sun routes are the only routes known to have potential at CWL. Everything else (As in Central and Eastern Europe) is an unproven and untested market which they will look at in the future.

Unless this summer proves more successful than they anticipated, it's unlikely to see a 2nd aircraft in 2023.

That being said there is lots of positive talk in that article. They also mention having very low fares which could attract people from the other side of the bridge. If that works, then not only will they likely claw back some of the 1m+ people from South Wales that use BRS, as well as those that use BHX and LON airports, but they could bring in some custom from outside of Wales.

I hope Wizz are successful at CWL as I would say they are the last trick CWL can pull out of the bag to really start improving things. There's little reason why they wouldn't be.
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Old 7th Apr 2022, 20:47
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Totally agree with the last section…..CWL really need to work with Wizz and the catchment area (and beyond) to make this a success.
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