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Old 18th Apr 2024, 13:31
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
Freebird are also operating for TUI this year to AYT (under their own flight numbers not TUI)…..can someone not add this onto Wikipedia too as they seem to be missed off the list.
Is that not a rather daft comment to make? Firstly, you could always add it yourself so long as you reference it with adequate sources. Though it would probably get deleted anyway as they operate solely for TUI in conjunction with TUI's own route network. I don't necessarily disagree it should be there, but they're not listed on any other airports wiki page either on the routes they fly for TUI.

Good to see Play trying out Cardiff, however limited.
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Old 24th Apr 2024, 11:28
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See Loganair are pulling the SOU-GLA route as a result of direct competition from EZY on the same route. Also pulling the ABZ-NCL & MME flights too.

Be great if Loganair started CWL-GLA or a second daily CWL-EDI instead !!
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Old 24th Apr 2024, 15:47
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl

Be great if Loganair started CWL-GLA or a second daily CWL-EDI instead !!
I admire your optimism. Short answer, not a chance. Long answer, read the press release and the reasons for cutting services.
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Old 24th Apr 2024, 16:35
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Originally Posted by L1011effoh
I admire your optimism. Short answer, not a chance. Long answer, read the press release and the reasons for cutting services.
The only possible way CWL will benefit from this is if it frees up at ATR76 to boost overall seat capacity.
Are CWL-EDI flights still booked to be the ERJ?
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Old 24th Apr 2024, 18:03
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Originally Posted by Letsflycwl
See Loganair are pulling the SOU-GLA route as a result of direct competition from EZY on the same route. Also pulling the ABZ-NCL & MME flights too.

Be great if Loganair started CWL-GLA or a second daily CWL-EDI instead !!
They're doing it because Loganair have been an operational shambles for the last 12 months. The cancellations will be firebreaks in the schedule or to free up an operational spare
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Old 28th Apr 2024, 20:36
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There's a nice sense of irony here. On one hand people defend Cardiff Airport by blaming it having an economically poor catchment area, whilst on the other hand celebrate a new service to one of Europe's most expensive tourist destinations.

Either these same people need to accept this new service will be a short-term disaster due to Iceland (and even the US if you're talking about connections) being too expensive for the poor people in the South Wales valleys, or accept the catchment area reason is simply an excuse and people will happily travel to an airport out of their way if the price is right and it's easy to use.
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Old 29th Apr 2024, 06:55
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Originally Posted by Sean North
or accept the catchment area reason is simply an excuse and people will happily travel to an airport out of their way if the price is right and it's easy to use.
This is the most sensible reason.
Based on BRS masterplan that said 20% of its passengers come from South Wales, which if still accurate in 2024 is about 2m passengers.

What is unique about Play is although EZY compete to Iceland, there's no competition from BRS on flights to the US, so they may attract people from the Southwest.
This route could go either way, will be interesting to see what happens with it.
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Old 29th Apr 2024, 07:22
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Originally Posted by caaardiff
This is the most sensible reason.
Based on BRS masterplan that said 20% of its passengers come from South Wales, which if still accurate in 2024 is about 2m passengers.

What is unique about Play is although EZY compete to Iceland, there's no competition from BRS on flights to the US, so they may attract people from the Southwest.
This route could go either way, will be interesting to see what happens with it.
I would suggest that, given the short season that Play are offering, the market they believe they have identified is the short break / Northern Lights one, not the North America hub over KEF.

Its a bit of a stretch at this stage to start getting exited about USA connections which would only become a serious opportunity should the service be extended to year round.
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Old 29th Apr 2024, 07:43
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
I would suggest that, given the short season that Play are offering, the market they believe they have identified is the short break / Northern Lights one, not the North America hub over KEF.

Its a bit of a stretch at this stage to start getting exited about USA connections which would only become a serious opportunity should the service be extended to year round.
It's a bit of a bizarre schedule of random days over a 6 week period. Who know what they're aiming for? The schedule covers two big football games between Wales and Iceland but if they were just targeting them then why not just put special football flights on?
Agreed the short break market will be the primary demand for the route but it does open up new opportunities. Although when WOW operated from BRS the connections weren't all that popular.
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