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Old 15th Oct 2023, 11:35
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Strange MAG are not in Istanbul for World Routes
BHX as always have a stand there.

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Originally Posted by Navpi
The MAN routes Development team are supposed to be attending the routes conference Istanbul but they don't appear to be listed separately. Are they included under STN? Very strange as LHR, LGW, BHX, EDI and LPL are all shown as attending.
It's not uncommon for airports that are owned by a group to be listed as attending under the group name and not the airport.

For example AGS are listed as attending rather than Aberdeen, Glasgow and Southampton.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 11:48
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But MAG aren't, just London Stansted.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 11:52
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I can't imagine they wouldn't be there. Maybe just hasn't been published to the website?
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 11:55
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You'll catch afew with that!!! Smile

EDIT: Why has the system converted the emoji to the word "smile" ... very strange.
Very likely, but sad thing is that its true

(Got my emoji to work!).
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 13:28
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
But MAG aren't, just London Stansted.
MAG I could understand, although MAN & STN would have their own goals and contacts to pursue even if there is some overlap.
Hope theyr'e not thinking of changing the name to SAG.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 16:15
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Isn't it true that the MAN route development team went during covid and STN now does both. God knows why.
It seems to me that MAN is run from STN and this may be to the detriment of MAN. Personally I would like to see MAG split up like BAA due to the anti competative nature of the setup.I think SAG is already here if not in name.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 19:47
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Originally Posted by viscount702
Isn't it true that the MAN route development team went during covid and STN now does both. God knows why.
It seems to me that MAN is run from STN and this may be to the detriment of MAN. Personally I would like to see MAG split up like BAA due to the anti competative nature of the setup.I think SAG is already here if not in name.
That's not true. And MAN is represented in IST (by MAN employees) from what I've seen so far in Turkiye.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 20:01
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Always some spoilsport with pesky facts!

You might want to tell them that Routes Online don't list them on the their website as being present.
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Always some spoilsport with pesky facts!

You might want to tell them that Routes Online don't list them on the their website as being present.
Can't see it mattering too much to them if it's not affecting the meetings they get agreed in advance with airlines through the booking system.
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Hopefully too busy to be bothered!
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 20:38
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Can't see it mattering too much to them if it's not affecting the meetings they get agreed in advance with airlines through the booking system.
Yes, that was my understanding too of a slot booking system for appointments between airports and airlines, although I wasn't sure if that was done in advance. I expect Route Development teams also make use of informal chats outside the more formal proceedings. It may also be a useful forum and through networking to keep an eye on what the competition are doing..
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Please tell me that both airports have their own teams !

If we are now saying there is a combined presence i can't help thinking they would "do an EMA....."!

"Well yes, you can of course go to Manchester, but we can offer you this if you come here to STN.....".

I doubt this happens BTW.

At least i bloody well hope not.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 21:38
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Originally Posted by Navpi
Please tell me that both airports have their own teams !

If we are now saying there is a combined presence i can't help thinking they would "do an EMA....."!

"Well yes, you can of course go to Manchester, but we can offer you this if you come here to STN.....".

I doubt this happens BTW.

At least i bloody well hope not.
Keeping your eyes on LinkedIn would be a good place to start to get a feel for many airports' route development teams.
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Old 15th Oct 2023, 21:54
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Originally Posted by AircraftOperations
Keeping your eyes on LinkedIn would be a good place to start to get a feel for many airports' route development teams.
So many on pprune seem to be totally unaware of LinkedIn. Most are totally unware of the site, especially when I have previously mentioned it.

So many on pprune simply rely on pprune for all of their information.

Also, relying on the company website is useless as they are hardly updated on a regular basis.

Not long ago I suggested to someone here on pprune to search for photos under Google images. Low and behold it was totally news to them as they wasn't aware of it. "Unbelievable isn't it 😳 "




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Old 16th Oct 2023, 05:50
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Many thanks, fully aware of LinkedIn and the fact WE HAD a dedicated Route Development Team based here in Manchester. Like MANFOD, the question was more about ensuring confirmation we have a dedicated team at Routes.
I'm sure supporters of Manchester want individual representation not possibly consolidation!
it seems odd not to be listed separately.
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Old 16th Oct 2023, 06:02
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MAG has a dedicated route development team for Manchester Airport, based in MAN. A number of them are in World Routes in Istanbul this week.

Most airports which are part of a group are listed as part of the group or under one of the attending airports, which is a direct function of the increasingly rapacious charges that the event organisers expect airport participants to pay.

Does it matter? No. The majority of meetings taking place at Routes are requested by the airport attendees of the airlines. Very few - probably less than 10% - are where an airline wants to meet with an airport. So if you're part of ABC Airports and you're Airport B, you still request to see the airlines you have on your target list even if those might be different from those which your sister airports A and C wish to meet. It's pretty much irrelevant given the format of the event.
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Old 16th Oct 2023, 08:31
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Originally Posted by Navpi
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Many thanks, fully aware of LinkedIn and the fact WE HAD a dedicated Route Development Team based here in Manchester. Like MANFOD, the question was more about ensuring confirmation we have a dedicated team at Routes.
I'm sure supporters of Manchester want individual representation not possibly consolidation!
it seems odd not to be listed separately.
LinkedIn does indeed provide confirmation that MAN's dedicated team are in Istanbul. I was already confident that was the case from another source.
Flightrider provides a likely explanation as to why group airports are registered under 1 name: "Most airports which are part of a group are listed as part of the group or under one of the attending airports, which is a direct function of the increasingly rapacious charges that the event organisers expect airport participants to pay".

Why it was decided to do so under Stansted rather than MAG still seems slightly strange but the key fact is that MAN are there. Let's hope the meetings, relationships building, networking etc. prove fruitful.
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Old 17th Oct 2023, 17:25
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Does anybody know what the steelwork being erected is for just to the left of stand 208 ?. I’ve not seen any plans for what it might be for and is not for the new pier as that is further along.
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It's the new Vertical Circulation Core (VCC).
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