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Old 31st Oct 2022, 16:10
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
"A limited survey ! I believe they surveyed 40 people at Exeter ( must have been a busy morning ) and about 400 at Manchester and similar at Liverpool ."

the statisticians would tell you that 900 people give you a correct answer to around +/- 2%
yet that low bar doesnít even appear to have been reached at Manchester across the three terminals
Now we do know T3 is exactly suitable to its design brief but hopeless as a flexible fares terminal and T1 has long over stayed its usefulness Acknowledged by the man from Gatwick now in charge with confirmation of the continued intention to close it soon as funds and T2 reworking allow
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 16:55
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Thinking about T2, do they have modern and effective security scanners or are they are **** as T1 and T3, and if so, when are they getting new ones?
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Old 2nd Nov 2022, 21:27
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According to @SPD_travels on Twitter, the slot report for S23 shows Thai, Air India, Royal Jordanian and PLAY operating from the airport. If all come to fruition if no changes, could be a good summer for Manchester with these new airlines and routes.
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Originally Posted by AvGeek1
According to @SPD_travels on Twitter, the slot report for S23 shows Thai, Air India, Royal Jordanian and PLAY operating from the airport. If all come to fruition if no changes, could be a good summer for Manchester with these new airlines and routes.
Donít hold your breath for Thai been just around the corner for twenty years !
Air India with BHX resuming near daily , through with TATA and Singapore influence outside chance I suppose.
ALIA maybe just to add to the already crowded ME schedules
Play would ruffle a few feathers down the road if they do through !


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Old 3rd Nov 2022, 00:35
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[QUOTE=Rutan16;11324486]Donít hold your breath for Thai been just around the corner for twenty years !

Its 40 years....... There was a rumour of a twice weekly schedule via Stockholm. Thai are coming out of bankruptcy and most of the widebody fleet is still grounded so new route development is unlikely for some time.
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Old 3rd Nov 2022, 06:32
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Originally Posted by Rutan16
Donít hold your breath for Thai been just around the corner for twenty years !

Itís 40 years....... There was a rumour of a twice weekly schedule via Stockholm. Thai are coming out of bankruptcy and most of the widebody fleet is still grounded so new route development is unlikely for some time.
Was I being generous saying twenty years then?
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Old 10th Nov 2022, 10:34
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It appears the Aer Lingus operation isnít very streamlined from Manchester, at the moment.

G-EILA is stuck in Daytona Beach after smoke filled the cabin coming back from MCO and this has led to CUN being cancelled yesterday and MCO today.

Surely they must have a wet lease back up or a second aircraft to support from DUB?
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Old 10th Nov 2022, 11:27
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Originally Posted by JonnyH
It appears the Aer Lingus operation isnít very streamlined from Manchester, at the moment.

G-EILA is stuck in Daytona Beach after smoke filled the cabin coming back from MCO and this has led to CUN being cancelled yesterday and MCO today.

Surely they must have a wet lease back up or a second aircraft to support from DUB?

Aer Lingus uk donít fly CUN , also nothing flying in or out of MCO due to Tropical storm Nicolle
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Old 10th Nov 2022, 14:50
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What have they done to 23R ? Lots of holding, go arounds & some diverts out this morning. Been landing 23L most of the day.
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Pot hole has appeared on 23R therefore 23L in use, aren`t we lucky we have 2 runways otherwise we would have been shut for hours
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Old 10th Nov 2022, 17:01
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Originally Posted by pabloc
Aer Lingus uk donít fly CUN , also nothing flying in or out of MCO due to Tropical storm Nicolle
It was BGI, rather than CUN, which was cancelled - in between the planned MCO arrival and then a further rotation out to MCO.
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Old 10th Nov 2022, 20:19
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Originally Posted by pabloc
Aer Lingus uk donít fly CUN , also nothing flying in or out of MCO due to Tropical storm Nicolle
I had CUN on the brain but yes youíre correct, it was BGI.

These cancellations are nothing to do with the weather, G-EILA is on the ground at DAB after a tech diversion.

As I said on my original post, we will see what happens with the further BGI flight tomorrow. Canít have 1x based A333 and cancel flights for days on end if it goes tech IMO.
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Old 10th Nov 2022, 20:26
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Originally Posted by JonnyH
I had CUN on the brain but yes youíre correct, it was BGI.

These cancellations are nothing to do with the weather, G-EILA is on the ground at DAB after a tech diversion.

As I said on my original post, we will see what happens with the further BGI flight tomorrow. Canít have 1x based A333 and cancel flights for days on end if it goes tech IMO.
The back up aircraft, G-EIDY was returned to DUB and placed back on the Irish register (again) some time ago. Rumour control says its coming back in March, replacing the A321 currently on the MAN-JFK route.
ILA had only just got back on schedule after a lengthy tech issue last week.
I remember someone on these forums saying that a back up aircraft was an unnecessary expense. 🙄
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Originally Posted by TURIN
The back up aircraft, G-EIDY was returned to DUB and placed back on the Irish register (again) some time ago. Rumour control says its coming back in March, replacing the A321 currently on the MAN-JFK route.
ILA had only just got back on schedule after a lengthy tech issue last week.
I remember someone on these forums saying that a back up aircraft was an unnecessary expense. 🙄
I completely agree. You cannot have a 1 aircraft base with no back up.

Todays BGI also cancelled. Surely they have to be looking at a wet lease from either EI Ireland or Wamos/other providers?
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Old 11th Nov 2022, 09:34
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Read elsewhere the original plan was to rebook pax via DUB on the MCO & MIA flights but Nicole put paid to that.

They tend to operate without a spare A330 in DUB either. Every year or two something like this happens and us enthusiasts bemoan the lack of spare airframes but I can only assume they have run the numbers and it makes more financial sense to operate as they do by a significant margin. Theyíre a very lean operator. Another example is the IT system (ASTRAL) which they designed themselves in the 70s. Very difficult to get it to integrate with other systems but it saves them a fortune vs paying Amadeus and the number of failures in 6 decades can be counted on one hand. It also is one reason they arenít fully integrated into one world and why things like amending a previous paid seat selection canít be done on the app.
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Old 11th Nov 2022, 10:02
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Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc
Read elsewhere the original plan was to rebook pax via DUB on the MCO & MIA flights but Nicole put paid to that.

They tend to operate without a spare A330 in DUB either. Every year or two something like this happens and us enthusiasts bemoan the lack of spare airframes but I can only assume they have run the numbers and it makes more financial sense to operate as they do by a significant margin. Theyíre a very lean operator. Another example is the IT system (ASTRAL) which they designed themselves in the 70s. Very difficult to get it to integrate with other systems but it saves them a fortune vs paying Amadeus and the number of failures in 6 decades can be counted on one hand. It also is one reason they arenít fully integrated into one world and why things like amending a previous paid seat selection canít be done on the app.
Madness.

The EI UK thread has someone advising theyíre subbing in an aircraft tomorrow.
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Old 11th Nov 2022, 19:18
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Old 11th Nov 2022, 19:25
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Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc

They tend to operate without a spare A330 in DUB either. Every year or two something like this happens and us enthusiasts bemoan the lack of spare airframes but I can only assume they have run the numbers and it makes more financial sense to operate as they do by a significant margin. Theyíre a very lean operator.
Yes, but in DUB they have a fleet they can shuffle around to recover lost time. With one aircraft you can't. It literally takes days for it to get back on schedule after a lengthy delay.
Maybe when/if IDY comes back it will make life easier.
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I believe its on its way back to Manchester from Daytona beach now.
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Until Aer Lingus decide to scale up ops at Manchester, there will always be a risk of issues like this happening. Even with 2 A330s planned next summer, they'll be both working the daily JFK and MCO services so there still won't be any slack in the schedule or spares available. The fact they chose not hire in capacity for the week probably suggests it was easier to rebook passengers on BA/VS and their own services via Dublin.

The A330 winter maintenance has started as well so there may not have been available capacity to take from Dublin with a busy schedule still operating. How they'll cover G-EILA's scheduled maintenance this winter will be interesting!
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