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Old 3rd Sep 2022, 17:26
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Please show some respect and tolerance towards those who hold views which differ from your own.
Anybody know where the "Manchester" thread is?
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Old 3rd Sep 2022, 17:41
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If you're referring to my latest post, it doesn't refer to or criticise any individual who has posted on here. It does address the likely impact of new covid restrictions on air travel demand this Winter. I think that's both relevant and fundamentally important to how the airport will perform this Winter. I respect your right to disagree (if you do), but this is a discussion forum and I don't apologise for discussing key issues affecting the season ahead.
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Old 3rd Sep 2022, 17:49
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You know exactly what you are doing - oh well.
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Old 3rd Sep 2022, 18:05
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Originally Posted by OzzyOzBorn
My decision to not rush into advance bookings for leisure air travel this Winter lest they prove more hassle than they're worth is already looking inspired. Crazed politicians in Germany have just extended mandatory bemuzzlement aboard aircraft, inter-city trains and coaches through to April 2023. They're insisting on only high-spec muzzles too. No Christmas Markets booking for me this year, then.

I expect that governments in a number of other jurisdictions will also succumb to irrational panic and indulge the urge to play 'saviour' as Winter approaches. I will limit my bookings to destinations unaffected by this madness. If there are any.
If FFP2 masks being mandatory stops anyone booking its pretty pathetic.

It's also worth pointing out that these German rules will only come into force should case numbers breach agreed thresholds.
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Old 3rd Sep 2022, 18:39
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If being compelled to wear a constrained FFP2 mask is mandated on German flights and almost nowhere else, it absolutely will have a commercial impact as consumers know they have similar easier choices elsewhere.
I enjoy North America and am off to JFK in November, I ruled out Canada for this exact reason.
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Old 3rd Sep 2022, 18:44
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If FFP2 masks being mandatory stops anyone booking its pretty pathetic.
It's not pathetic. They're darned uncomfortable and of questionable efficacy. If I'm travelling for pleasure then they negate the whole point of the trip. I want a vacation, not an ordeal. It's my money. I'm not spending it to re-enter covidworld. I'm not alone in thinking this way. I'll choose destinations where mindless mandates of this sort do not apply. If you're fine with them, make your bookings accordingly. But the potential market size is reduced substantially by measures such as this. This is why German carriers are distraught about this development.

If planning for a (hopefully) undisrupted leisure trip, it is also worth keeping in mind that governments which impose bemuzzlement are simultaneously the most likely to reimpose testing requirements at short notice. So Germany bookings are a NO from me TFN.
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Old 3rd Sep 2022, 19:09
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Cuba Direct holidays and a few smaller brands have clubbed together to operate a new route from Manchester to Cayo Coco and Holguin on a triangle based routing this winter.

They will use a HiFly A339 and operate on Wednesdays until at least May 2023.

Courtesy of Wingtips in another place ( credit his words)

Good to see a Thomas Cook favourite being restored
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Old 4th Sep 2022, 17:31
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Quick question if anyone knows. Can 757ís use the contact stands on the far side of the T2 pier?

Its only jet2 that have them now but if they use T2 they either use the older T2 gates or the pier stands on the near side that usually have wide-bodies on.

I know A321ís can and have used the stands on the far side of the pier so would have though 757ís would be ok there.
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Old 4th Sep 2022, 19:36
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Originally Posted by azz767
Quick question if anyone knows. Can 757ís use the contact stands on the far side of the T2 pier?

Its only jet2 that have them now but if they use T2 they either use the older T2 gates or the pier stands on the near side that usually have wide-bodies on.

I know A321ís can and have used the stands on the far side of the pier so would have though 757ís would be ok there.

No, they can't. The stands 101-111 are ICAO 'Code C' for a maximum wingspan of 36m. B757s have a 38m span or 41m with winglets, if I remember correctly.
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Old 4th Sep 2022, 20:35
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Originally Posted by roverman
No, they can't. The stands 101-111 are ICAO 'Code C' for a maximum wingspan of 36m. B757s have a 38m span or 41m with winglets, if I remember correctly.
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Old 5th Sep 2022, 12:28
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They are far too long as well. The wingtip to tail clearance on Zulu Orange with a A321 parked on the stand is eye wateringly close, never mind a 757!
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Old 5th Sep 2022, 13:29
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They are far too long as well. The wingtip to tail clearance on Zulu Orange with a A321 parked on the stand is eye wateringly close, never mind a 757!
Interesting, is this a new thing? Zulu Orange and Blue using colours rather than the more intuitive November and Sierra to denote North and South? Any other UK airfield have something similar? Stansted has East, Central and West lines in the aprons.
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Old 5th Sep 2022, 15:43
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Interesting, is this a new thing? Zulu Orange and Blue using colours rather than the more intuitive November and Sierra to denote North and South? Any other UK airfield have something similar? Stansted has East, Central and West lines in the aprons.
I had some involvement with this during my time on MAN-TP. Using cardinal points at MAN is problematic because the airfield doesn't sit conveniently on an East-West axis like Heathrow and Gatwick and has a generally more random taxiway layout than Stansted. Blue & Orange sub-centrelines were already established at airports like CDG, MUC, FRA and a few others, so it was decided to follow some existing practice. Furthermore they were adopted by EASA as a recognsed 'means of compliance' during a revision of aerodrome design standards in 2016 or 2017, I forget exactly when. It works well. The same revision also allowed closer clearances between aircraft wingtips and obstacles along taxiway routes.
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Old 5th Sep 2022, 19:35
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Skipness - Stansted has a blue line on Alpha middle. In daylight it helps prevent large cargo types (more than 36m wingspan) allocated stands A1 to A9 inadvertently using the east line which is limited to 36m wingspan due to the adjacent rear of stand road. At night the green centreline lights can be independently selected so the correct line is followed..
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Old 5th Sep 2022, 20:19
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Great info, thanks all! I well remember the problems with Manchester's alignment when Air China Cargo was once told by ATC to push and face "Wythenshawe".

More than once. And then some more. It didn't end well....Utterly lost in translation.
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Old 7th Sep 2022, 13:42
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Lufthansa 787 diverting in now.
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Old 7th Sep 2022, 13:58
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Originally Posted by BA318
Lufthansa 787 diverting in now.
A350 actually (Munich-Charlotte LH428)
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Old 7th Sep 2022, 14:39
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Originally Posted by Curious Pax
A350 actually (Munich-Charlotte LH428)
Thanks for the correction. Is it medical? Or tech?
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Old 7th Sep 2022, 15:38
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Originally Posted by BA318
Thanks for the correction. Is it medical? Or tech?
Local chatter suggests medical
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Old 16th Sep 2022, 08:01
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Not sure who handles Iberia these days, but this is a bit of an epic fail. No checked bags loaded on flight MAN-MAD
Flight was Sunday & Iberia say no worries, bags will come on Wednesday.
If you were connecting via MAD I'd be pretty miffed, especially when often checked bags cost more than a passenger seat these days.

https://simpleflying.com/iberia-leav...box=1663251268
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