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What did people expect to happen to villages on the edge two large towns that are almost joined together already. The A67 will most likely be first area of land to be fully developed land linking Stockton on Tees and Darlington.
Housing and airports(major) are not really a marriage made in heaven...
Not sure to be honest what is the best mix..help!
Gut feeling is..sorry..still don’t trust PEEL..
Not sure to be honest what is the best mix..help!
Gut feeling is..sorry..still don’t trust PEEL..
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Here is a link to the planning application for the new Great North Air Ambulance base. It seems Durham Tees Valley Airports interests have been took into account and the restrictions have been put in place that should protect the airport. https://www.developmentmanagement.st...=OJD742PKJG700
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Not a nice place to work 100 year plus of poison in the ground, interesting reading about digging foundation holes and contamination. At least they won't be able to have any other helicopters on site.
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Win win for everyone really, GNAA get their extravagant palace, airport gets increased rental income from being able to fit more planes in their current hangar, plus an air traffic services fee
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For all I know there may not be a fee, but plenty think there will be. I think any charge is more than justifiable. They're said to be very wealthy as far as charities go, and the rumoured designs supposedly contain lot's of marble and fancy glass
How times change..I’m sure most were disappointed on here when the move was announced originally?
Still think it would have been, Operationally,financially and sensible to remain on the airport site?
Still think it would have been, Operationally,financially and sensible to remain on the airport site?
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Marble, and Robert Hough timeline.
Ah I raised the "fee" question as you mentioned one before.
As for marble and fancy glass, I'm sure the charity trustees wouldn't allow such extravagance at the new HQ?
The plans for the Urlay Nook GNAA site say it has to be built within 3 years, so it will be just before Robert Hough's comments of only guaranteeing the airport for 5 years when he was questioned by the press last year.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/busine...rport-11522602
Robert Hough quote:
"Secondly, there is an agreement we have entered into with the local authorities which is a framework under which we will give assurances for the future to keep open the airport for a period of 10 years with a break at five years or thereafter in the event of certain financial criteria not being met.
To do that, it is very rare for an airport operator particularly in a smaller regional airport to guarantee continuity for any period of time. These breaks provide options".
Re the quote "in the event of certain financial criteria not being met", has Robert revealed what those criteria are?
Have Peel published the figures anywhere? It would seen the councils were informed, where is this information on councils websites?
As for marble and fancy glass, I'm sure the charity trustees wouldn't allow such extravagance at the new HQ?
The plans for the Urlay Nook GNAA site say it has to be built within 3 years, so it will be just before Robert Hough's comments of only guaranteeing the airport for 5 years when he was questioned by the press last year.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/busine...rport-11522602
Robert Hough quote:
"Secondly, there is an agreement we have entered into with the local authorities which is a framework under which we will give assurances for the future to keep open the airport for a period of 10 years with a break at five years or thereafter in the event of certain financial criteria not being met.
To do that, it is very rare for an airport operator particularly in a smaller regional airport to guarantee continuity for any period of time. These breaks provide options".
Re the quote "in the event of certain financial criteria not being met", has Robert revealed what those criteria are?
Have Peel published the figures anywhere? It would seen the councils were informed, where is this information on councils websites?
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Beefer, as much as we would all like Peel to detail every part their cunning plan for the airport and give forensic details on the financial situation, it is not to going to happen. Maybe your questions are are better directed at the charity and your local councillor and then you could maybe report your findings on here?
See U2 were doing training flights again this afternoon.
See U2 were doing training flights again this afternoon.
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On the one hand yes it's a bit cheeky when you're taking £6 off every passenger for the same purpose, on the other hand who cares where it's coming from as long as it is coming
A juicy bit of dirt there. If you look back in history, note to dirt hound, our neighbouring airports must have had millions gifted by local councils and EU over the years when DTVA got nothing.
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I'm sure most tax payers will agree that with Peel being a billion pound company run by an owner called Whittaker who is also worth £2.4 billion himself, they shouldn't be asking for public handouts, especially when nobody knows what the money will be spent on. 
I think this has been how Peel managed to get hold of a public owned airport for the small sum of £500,000, when they last valued the DTVA land being worth £30m.
It all smells a bit with the latest news coming out
Time for Peel to be given back their £500,000 or should it be £5,000 for running the place into the ground.
Lets hope these unusual verbal agreements where Labour councillors approve of gifting Peel another half a million pounds of public money is looked into by the Prime Ministers department.
Did the same council leaders approve this large payment before jumping off the airport board, or after jumping ship? Sounds like a mother fine mess they may have got themselves into!
How many staff are employed at the airport? or is just another Peel secret now they don't pay the staff pensions?
I think this has been how Peel managed to get hold of a public owned airport for the small sum of £500,000, when they last valued the DTVA land being worth £30m.
It all smells a bit with the latest news coming out
Time for Peel to be given back their £500,000 or should it be £5,000 for running the place into the ground.
Lets hope these unusual verbal agreements where Labour councillors approve of gifting Peel another half a million pounds of public money is looked into by the Prime Ministers department.
Did the same council leaders approve this large payment before jumping off the airport board, or after jumping ship? Sounds like a mother fine mess they may have got themselves into!
How many staff are employed at the airport? or is just another Peel secret now they don't pay the staff pensions?
Times of change..sometimes..and just sometimes Beafer dredges up some interesting dirt
Would really love to know where this income/ cash is going..is it stated anywhere where the 6 fee goes .Thanks to FODTV,Menial tasks are financed.
Can anyone with authority state where income from the operations etc.Are being re invested?
Lump sums as above..where is the the reinvestment?
Sorry. Still not convinced by PEEL. Ideology.
Would really love to know where this income/ cash is going..is it stated anywhere where the 6 fee goes .Thanks to FODTV,Menial tasks are financed.
Can anyone with authority state where income from the operations etc.Are being re invested?
Lump sums as above..where is the the reinvestment?
Sorry. Still not convinced by PEEL. Ideology.
Without wishing to wade into this particular debate with both feet, there has to be a wider argument about how a private sector property tycoon with very little accountability is handed £millions in public funding to prop up apparent loss leaders. I understand Government bail outs, and public-private initiatives, but this just seems like robbery in plain sight. Apologies if a little off topic, but while these companies plead poverty, the surrounding land is being developed into real estate making said company £millions. All seems somewhat iffy.
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So have Peel intimated to the councils what routes they might try and bring back!
It would not take much exploring to find out what routes worked for the airport in the past, bucket and spade must still be a good way to re-start.
It would not take much exploring to find out what routes worked for the airport in the past, bucket and spade must still be a good way to re-start.
It takes a lot more than a few summer flights to the Mediterranean to support an airport.
With Newcastle just an hour up the road in the long term Teeside airport looks doomed in much the same way as Blackpool.
With Newcastle just an hour up the road in the long term Teeside airport looks doomed in much the same way as Blackpool.