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This is for RVR measuring,most major airports have them.
Are we going to get any significant much needed airside developments?
sadly it looks increasingly unlightly,so more delays,apron constraints,and no further progress.
This is for RVR measuring,most major airports have them.
Are we going to get any significant much needed airside developments?
sadly it looks increasingly unlightly,so more delays,apron constraints,and no further progress.

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A transmissometer measures runway visual range. Works in a similar way to radar. In simple terms the [email protected] (or similar) bounces off fog etc and measures how far the beam gets thus giving you a visual range. This will allow for an accurate viz measurement which will increase resilience in fog etc.
The way they do it currently is stand at a set height off the ground (on steps located at North/South end) and count lights. However many lights you see translates into distance. The new system saves the ops team standing on a cold and wet set of steps!
I have had a bit of exposure to the costs of these systems and they're not cheap but when you bear in mind they are accurate to CM's, that will mean the difference between diverting if the RVR is out of limits to being able to land.
Its the start of airside investment. The drainage improvement is required for environmental reasons and these projects take precedence over anything else
The way they do it currently is stand at a set height off the ground (on steps located at North/South end) and count lights. However many lights you see translates into distance. The new system saves the ops team standing on a cold and wet set of steps!
I have had a bit of exposure to the costs of these systems and they're not cheap but when you bear in mind they are accurate to CM's, that will mean the difference between diverting if the RVR is out of limits to being able to land.
Its the start of airside investment. The drainage improvement is required for environmental reasons and these projects take precedence over anything else

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Thank you for the informative info,you say it's the start of airside investment,I would say it's catching up with essential equipment that all regional airports have( including Hurn)and have had for years!
Can Southampton take the necessary steps forward in airside investment to progress?
Now that's a big question!
Thank you for the informative info,you say it's the start of airside investment,I would say it's catching up with essential equipment that all regional airports have( including Hurn)and have had for years!
Can Southampton take the necessary steps forward in airside investment to progress?
Now that's a big question!

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Have been around for decades but increasingly commonplace now for precision approach support in low visibility. If you want to know more, Skybrary is usually a good place to look:
https://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Automated_Cloud_Base_and_Visibility_Measurement#Visibility_M easurement
https://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Automated_Cloud_Base_and_Visibility_Measurement#Visibility_M easurement

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Ok I can see this will provide accurate info,but I can't see being a great aid to Southampton in poor visibility,I believe Southampton minima in poor visibility is greater then many regional airports,is it 800mtrs rvr ?,most are 600 rvr cat 1.

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FR24 is in fact showing a 737 daily now on the late flight, not sure if this is correct but could they be increasing capacity with the 700 series (132 seats)?
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I'd imagine that this is a glitch. Booking engine shows an E175 tomorrow afternoon, and although I think there is potential for the route to support a 737 on some flights, particularly on/around weekends, going to a 737 every evening is a significant upguage of capacity which I'd have thought would have been announced officially somewhere were it to happen.

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If the current rumours are correct and an announcement is eminent down the road at BOH (Airport purchase by Sir Peter Rigby) could the lack of investment and a runway/apron expansion at SOU be a massive blow and leave them struggling against a possibly transformed/better managed BOH operation?

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The long awaited news promised earlier on in the year by the Southampton airport MD has not materialised,no surprise!
With Bournemouth looking more likely to develop under the possible new owners, Southampton looks like it's gone as far as it can with its infrastructure,the airport land would be so valuable for housing and business.Interesting times lay ahead!.
With Bournemouth looking more likely to develop under the possible new owners, Southampton looks like it's gone as far as it can with its infrastructure,the airport land would be so valuable for housing and business.Interesting times lay ahead!.

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Indeed and I guess time will tell, with the fact that the land SOU is sitting on being far more valuable than that of BOH it's worrying, along with the likes of Flybe, Eastern and KLM already operating from existing RG airports, who knows what could happen.
