Southampton-2

[Sharklet_321]

It does - SI flights are included on their arrivals board

I was surprised to see it's only double daily though, I thought they were once 4 times daily?

[Wycombe]

Let's hope that they remain and that no further cutbacks are planned.

There's a statement out from Loganair overnight that affects the new SOU services as follows:
GLA-SOU reduced timetable of two flights per day (assume still due to start 30/03)
NCL-SOU reduced timetable of one/two flights per day (assume still due to start 23/3)

EDI is not due to start until mid-June in any case.

[Wycombe]

I thought they were once 4 times daily?

JER and GCI were 3/4 times daily until a few weeks ago. BEE also flew at least 1 daily to JER in their own right.

[Sotonsean]

Originally Posted by Wycombe

JER and GCI were 3/4 times daily until a few weeks ago. BEE also flew at least 1 daily to JER in their own right.

A few weeks ago is a completely different scenario to now!

It was announced on the Guernsey press website as well as the Blue Islands website on Monday that flights between Southampton to Guernsey and Jersey were being reduced due to the current situation.

Guernsey and Jersey will both be connected to Southampton up to twice daily with a morning and an evening departure to both islands.

A daily interisland connection between Guernsey and Jersey is still being maintained by Blue Islands.

[Auxtank]

Don't shoot me down here and obviously I have tremendous sympathy with all those affected by Flybe's woes but living as I do at roughly the MM of ILS 20 I'm seeing some interesting traffic going in; various Helos, Twin Stars practising IFR (from L3 at BOH?) and all manner of twin pistons as well as the commercial stuff being spoken about.
It's rather nice and obviously SOU have made their tarmac available to anyone who wants to use it for a price and have done a good job of projecting that out there.
Makes a change from the drone of endless Q400, and others.

[SKOJB]

EasyJet return for winter season 20/21, Thu/Sun Dec-Feb, good news!

[ericlday]

If there is a Winter season.........Hmmmmmm

[Wycombe]

A few weeks ago is a completely different scenario to now!

Did I say it wasn't, I just answered the question that was asked.

As Auxtank says, there does seem to be a lot more GA buzzing around SOU than during "normal times"

I notice that Specsavers appear to have stopped though - guess they are all WFH and/or limiting travel to GCI.

[Sharklet_321]

Originally Posted by SKOJB

EasyJet return for winter season 20/21, Thu/Sun Dec-Feb, good news!

A320 or A319 or a mix of both?

Don't worry about flights only on sale till Feb. It's the same for everyone so hopefully March will be rolled out later.

[SKOJB]

Originally Posted by Sharklet_321

A320 or A319 or a mix of both?

Don't worry about flights only on sale till Feb. It's the same for everyone so hopefully March will be rolled out later.

Looks like A320 for entire timetable!

[The Nutts Mutts]

I've got a feeling the Eastern Belfast service may not start until the 14th April now.
Loganair appear to be pressing ahead with their route launches from SOU but at a reduced frequency due to COVID.

[adfly]

Eastern Latest

Looks like Eastern are cutting capacity until 20/04. Also only offering higher fares at the moment (~180 each way!), but then that may be a sensible move because it is likely that anyone who does need to fly somewhere now will need too somewhat urgently, therefore said prices are unlikely to deter them. Unless, of course it is a sign they may be suspended. Usual ~50 each way fares resume from 14/04, and at the moment capacity ramps up from 20/04

Until 20/04:

Belfast - 6 weekly S20 (from 23/03)
Leeds - 5 weekly J41
Manchester - 6 weekly S20
Newcastle - 6 weekly E145
Teesside - 10 weekly E145/S20

From 20/04:

Belfast - 7 weekly AT7
Leeds - 15 weekly J41
Manchester - 17 weekly AT7
Newcastle - 11 weekly E145
Teesside - 10 weekly J41

[The Nutts Mutts]

Eastern latest announcement

This morning Eastern released their latest schedule update.
All routes from SOU will still operate which is good news, but at a reduced frequency of 1x daily Mon-Fri only.
Eastern Belfast and Loganair Newcastle still due to start on Monday 23rd.

[The Nutts Mutts]

Eastern to Dublin

Eastern have announced that they will operate a Southampton to Dublin route, but haven't committed to a start date yet due to the Covid crisis. Apparently this is one of seven new routes from Southampton and Belfast City they'll be announcing once things start getting back to normal.

[Rivet Joint]

Originally Posted by The Nutts Mutts

Eastern have announced that they will operate a Southampton to Dublin route, but haven't committed to a start date yet due to the Covid crisis. Apparently this is one of seven new routes from Southampton and Belfast City they'll be announcing once things start getting back to normal.

Positive news, SOU looks like it has recovered the best out of the ex BE bases so far? I guess ideally SOU does not want to end up in the same position where it has one airline serving all its routes like BE did though. Interesting that T3 will base 5 aircraft. I wonder what aircraft hey will base? Seems to be mixed so far.

[adfly]

Originally Posted by The Nutts Mutts

Eastern have announced that they will operate a Southampton to Dublin route, but haven't committed to a start date yet due to the Covid crisis. Apparently this is one of seven new routes from Southampton and Belfast City they'll be announcing once things start getting back to normal.

I would guess this could be using the 1-2 daily slots that will be 'free' on the E145 operating the NCL route when that returns to 11 weekly. Good news however it turns out though.

[SKOJB]

Would imagine the majority of these new routes will be from Belfast City as the airport only has Teesside & Southampton to date!

[The Nutts Mutts]

Originally Posted by Rivet Joint

Positive news, SOU looks like it has recovered the best out of the ex BE bases so far? I guess ideally SOU does not want to end up in the same position where it has one airline serving all its routes like BE did though. Interesting that T3 will base 5 aircraft. I wonder what aircraft hey will base? Seems to be mixed so far.

My thoughts too, I really hope they don't end up with all their eggs in one basket again.
Eastern seem a different beast since being bought back from Bristow, but my worry is that they're much less widely known than Flybe were. Will enough people get to know that they serve these routes?

[Rivet Joint]

Originally Posted by The Nutts Mutts

My thoughts too, I really hope they don't end up with all their eggs in one basket again.
Eastern seem a different beast since being bought back from Bristow, but my worry is that they're much less widely known than Flybe were. Will enough people get to know that they serve these routes?

It looks like they are doing a good job on social media but I cannot see them ever becoming as large an operation as BE. To be fair BE did take a while to build themselves to a household name so you never know. The North Sea oil market is flat so T3 are clearly trying to move towards being a regional airline. I guess they have the jump on LM who are tied into numerous contracts routes. It looks like another ej145 has returned to T3s fleet today. I guess their finances wouldn’t stretch to leasing a couple of the q400s sitting around (obviously once things have returned to normal). You would hope SOU have talked to KLM and AF, and that with the reduced frequency on most routes that they would have capacity to open up at SOU. 230k annual passengers on the AMS route is surely tempting even for the likes of KLM. Again this is all on the basis that things have returned to normal.

[willy wombat]

I don’t think it would be a question of finances stretching to lease a q400. I think you could probably be paid to take on some of them at the moment. Adding q400s to the AOC would be time consuming and expensive and really, Eastern has got quite enough variation in its fleet without q400s .