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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 15:32
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There has been talk of complications for some months now. Is PTT Newcastle's only flying school? The PTT engineer was based up at Newcastle is he still working?
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Old 22nd Aug 2018, 15:49
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Sadly it looks like PPT Aviation have gone. Following notice was on door outside office at the Leeds/Bradford base:

The Directors of the company have reluctantly taken the decision to place the company into creditors voluntary liquidation.

Date of the Liquidation will be 3rd September 2018.

Any future questions should be sent to [email protected] or 0113 243861
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 16:44
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Jet 2

looks like today’s DLM flight is circling around Leeds. Already left an hour late. Anyone have any info
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 16:56
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Originally Posted by skyhawk1
looks like today’s DLM flight is circling around Leeds. Already left an hour late. Anyone have any info
now landed at Manchester
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 18:48
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Not sure what happened with the DLM, Jet 2 swapped a lot of aircraft around this afternoon. There was issues with the IBZ, G-CELH was changed to G-GDFH due to performance restrictions out of NCL.
I can only guess there was an issue on departure and with there being no spare usable aircraft at NCL, LBA/MAN were better options.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 20:09
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Made sense to divert it into MAN as Jet2 have no spare aircraft at LBA either.
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 22:17
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Originally Posted by Falcon900LX
... issues with the IBZ, G-CELH was changed to G-GDFH due to performance restrictions out of NCL.
I'm surprised to hear that. What performance restrictions are there from NCL for a route as relatively short as Ibiza? Weather related?
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Old 23rd Aug 2018, 22:23
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Originally Posted by jensdad
I'm surprised to hear that. What performance restrictions are there from NCL for a route as relatively short as Ibiza? Weather related?
was no significant weather at NCL today ?
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 01:26
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL
was no significant weather at NCL today ?
Nothing at NCL, but not sure about any headwinds over Europe etc etc. Not an expert on these things so I'm just thinking aloud here. Like I say, I'm surprised that a 737 can't get from NCL to Ibiza, but there must be a good reason...
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 06:01
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The top five UK airports according to Which?

1. Doncaster Sheffield (87%)

2. London Southend (84%)

3. Newcastle (74%)

4. Southampton (73%)

5. Exeter (72%)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45286347
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 09:30
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Originally Posted by jensdad
Nothing at NCL, but not sure about any headwinds over Europe etc etc. Not an expert on these things so I'm just thinking aloud here. Like I say, I'm surprised that a 737 can't get from NCL to Ibiza, but there must be a good reason...
The issue was it’s only a 20K machine, weather down route meant that they would’ve had to take more fuel while the weather at NCL wasn’t particularly bad, the rain is still a factor as is the wet runway and they had a small tolerance. Too small.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 10:20
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Originally Posted by Falcon900LX


The issue was it’s only a 20K machine, weather down route meant that they would’ve had to take more fuel while the weather at NCL wasn’t particularly bad, the rain is still a factor as is the wet runway and they had a small tolerance. Too small.
GCELH was used for ALMERIA instead of IBIZA, ALMERIA is 3 hours flight time.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 10:37
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So perhaps it was dry by then.

Its not just flight time you you need to consider either. The alternate for IBZ is usually PMI. If the weather was similarly bad, which it often is, then MAH would also be used as an alternate which is further away. So, alternate fuel for MAH plus holding fuel would probably add up to more than you’d need for LEI on a nice day, which it was.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 13:10
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Originally Posted by skyhawk1
looks like today’s DLM flight is circling around Leeds. Already left an hour late. Anyone have any info
it went tech. 19 hour delay.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 13:58
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LHR
Seems one of the busiest days of the week ie Fridays now has the least no of LHR flights. If anyone missed the 10. 35 arrival into NCL this morning, the next flight arrives NCL 19.30.
Think this is the pattern for the last few and coming weeks.
Great schedule. "IF" you can get a seat its getting on towards £400 (£363 economy) one way.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 15:04
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BA flights to LHR will increase from 8th September to 28th October from 39 to 46 x weekly. Details of extra flights added are below:

BA1323 NCL 12:50 LHR 14:10 319 D

BA1330 LHR 21:55 NCL 23:05 319 4
BA1330 LHR 22:05 NCL 23:15 319 x4
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 17:45
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thats a slightly odd short term increase. One presumes 'slot utilisation' ?
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Or an airline with a good understanding of its market reducing supply when demand is low and increasing it when it is high??

(just as it does every year...)
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 19:17
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Or an airline with a good understanding of its market reducing supply when demand is low and increasing it when it is high??

(just as it does every year...)
When I worked for BA they were fantastic for utilisation on some routes but poor on others.

The two NCL rotations, that were about an 30-60 minutes apart last year, was a real head scratcher with some pretty low load factors.

The two morning flights; the 0605 especially are real good money spinners & load factors are always great.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 21:39
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Originally Posted by Falcon900LX


The issue was it’s only a 20K machine, weather down route meant that they would’ve had to take more fuel while the weather at NCL wasn’t particularly bad, the rain is still a factor as is the wet runway and they had a small tolerance. Too small.
Thanks for the explanation, Falcon. Didn't realise the tolerances were as small as they are.
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