Newcastle-9

[HH6702]

DXB doing ok at nearly 22k for the month

[inOban]

And still slightly higher than EDI.

[GrahamK]

Looks like the losses to EDI are starting to stabilise, should hopefully see growth going forward again. August should see healthy figures being the main month for English schoolkids being on holiday

[GrahamK]

New route for Jet2 from Feb 2021, Salzburg, 1 x weekly

[BAladdy]

Loganair flights to BRU will reduce in frequency to 7 x weekly from 7th July

[HH6702]

Originally Posted by BAladdy

Loganair flights to BRU will reduce in frequency to 7 x weekly from 7th July

july is a long way away ?

[Jamesair]

It makes absolute sense when you compare pax numbers against their Stavanger route....with Stavanger at 6 weekly 1444 and growing with Brussels at twice daily with 1674. That aircraft could be put to much better use on a new route.

Good to see Jet 2 adding Salzburg.

[JonnyH]

Virgin looking to potentially add NCL/LHR if they get a third runway.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/what...rqso1eWUOiwG1Q

[sixchannel]

Originally Posted by JonnyH

Virgin looking to potentially add NCL/LHR if they get a third runway.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/what...rqso1eWUOiwG1Q

No News news. How many years away is that?

[Saabdriver1]

The reduction on NCL-BRU is for July and August only. Think this will become the new norm, particularly with other things to do with the aircraft.

[JonnyH]

Originally Posted by sixchannel

No News news. How many years away is that?

Completely agree! But this is the Newcastle thread.

[Rottweiler22]

Originally Posted by Saabdriver1

The reduction on NCL-BRU is for July and August only. Think this will become the new norm, particularly with other things to do with the aircraft.

NCL-BRU is dominated by business passengers. July and August are school and summer holiday territory, so lots of customers are on holiday or with their kids. They’ve always been a quiet time for the Brussels, so
it makes sense.

[Jamesair]

Whilst that is true, the figures have been over 30% down on Brussels every month since the BMI demise, it must be difficult to justify a twice daily service. It is probably down to the loss of the majority of transit passengers on the route.

[bigchrisfgb]

Originally Posted by JonnyH

Virgin looking to potentially add NCL/LHR if they get a third runway.

The thing is they have a good base at Gatwick and Newcastle is now without a Gatwick route. If they added a Gatwick route to/from Newcastle then they could offer connecting flights to compete with BA (and others) very easily. Virgin doesn’t need a 3rd runway at Heathrow, and they certainly don’t need it to offer end to end services from Newcastle.

[Jamesair]

EasyJet summer schedules published today, taking August as the main month it looks like:

ALICANTE 6 WKLY
BARCELONA 5 WKLY
BELFAST....19 WKLY
BRISTOL....13 WKLY
CORFU....1 WKLY
FARO......6 WKLY
GENEVA...2 WKLY
JERSEY.....4 WKLY
PALMA.....8 WKLY
MALAGA....6 WKLY
MALTA.......2 WKLY
NICE......3 WKLY
SPLIT......2 WKLY

RHODES IS CANCELLED FOR NEXT YEAR

[skyman771]

Originally Posted by bigchrisfgb

The thing is they have a good base at Gatwick and Newcastle is now without a Gatwick route. If they added a Gatwick route to/from Newcastle then they could offer connecting flights to compete with BA (and others) very easily. Virgin doesn’t need a 3rd runway at Heathrow, and they certainly don’t need it to offer end to end services from Newcastle.

100% agree!, insofar as NCL is concerned a good LGW service could be of significantly more benefit to NCL than any 3rd runway at LHR.
For a starter there is nothing to say there will be a 3rd runway in the next 5 years at least.
Apart from connecting VS flights, at least there would also be the option (even if required bag recheck ) to access some pretty basic destinations NOT accessible with BA from LHR say Florida, & specifically FLL.

[Travel Agent]

Originally Posted by Jamesair

Whilst that is true, the figures have been over 30% down on Brussels every month since the BMI demise, it must be difficult to justify a twice daily service. It is probably down to the loss of the majority of transit passengers on the route.

They need a codeshare at Brussells. A lot of pax connected with flights to Africa as well as north America I would imagine, hence the drop in numbers (IMHO)

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by skyman771

100% agree!, insofar as NCL is concerned a good LGW service could be of significantly more benefit to NCL than any 3rd runway at LHR..

Er how? People on the MAN thread point at LGW as a missing link on their network but it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. Gatwick doesn’t do connections well, it really doesn’t. BA do not hub, it’s a point to point business model based on the leisure market and some points redemption to keep the frequent flier base sweet. Even GLA/EDI struggle with good weekend connections to BA long haul as the short haul fleet refocuses away from domestic flying on summer weekends. This year, VS have the smallest volume of LGW seats in over 15 years. Some days only had three flights as focus is on MAN and LHR. Even Norwegian feeding their own long haul remains loss making.

So the reason LHR wins is it gets the local London traffic and connections whereas LGW has a tiny fraction of the available connections, which is exactly why no one flys the route. There’s no significant benefit that I can see that LGW brings.

[jensdad]

Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot

There’s no significant benefit that I can see that LGW brings.

Except if you want to visit, or have relatives or friends in, the area to the South or East of London? Brighton & Hove alone has a population only 10,000 smaller than Newcastle's. When BA, Easyjet and Flybe flew the route I used it several times to get to places that can't be reached from Newcastle, or Heathrow for that matter.

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by jensdad

Except if you want to visit, or have relatives or friends in, the area to the South or East of London? Brighton & Hove alone has a population only 10,000 smaller than Newcastle's. When BA, Easyjet and Flybe flew the route I used it several times to get to places that can't be reached from Newcastle, or Heathrow for that matter.

And what would the benefit be to Virgin (which is where the discussion started)? They've made it clear that their interest in short haul flights is to feed into their long haul network - and in an interview with Flight this week, only LHR and MAN were mentioned in connection in terms of feed and the flyBe deal