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Old 13th Aug 2018, 18:44
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Three arrivals within 80 minutes of each other cancelled this evening: BA from Heathrow and Eastern from Aberdeen and Cardiff. Coincidence or something else?
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Old 13th Aug 2018, 20:16
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Business orientated routes and it's the middle of August...
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Old 13th Aug 2018, 20:35
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Business orientated routes and it's the middle of August...
Ah yes. Good point!
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Old 13th Aug 2018, 20:39
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And two of them are Eastern....
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Old 13th Aug 2018, 21:29
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
And two of them are Eastern....
Hmm yes, very true. They don't seem to be the most reliable airline. With the fares they charge you'd think they could afford to run a dependable service but what do I know?
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Old 13th Aug 2018, 22:50
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having just been quoted over £ 600 for a day return from LHR-NCL on Friday I'm not surprised no-one is flying with them................ even the train is cheaper.............
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Old 13th Aug 2018, 23:27
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Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry
having just been quoted over £ 600 for a day return from LHR-NCL on Friday I'm not surprised no-one is flying with them................ even the train is cheaper.............
It's quite worrying what is happening with the Heathrow route, LHRH. Could turn into the classic vicious circle: Lower frequency > Higher fares & Less convenient timings > Less passengers > etc. etc. Don't want to tempt fate...
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 00:08
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Originally Posted by jensdad
It's quite worrying what is happening with the Heathrow route, LHRH. Could turn into the classic vicious circle: Lower frequency > Higher fares & Less convenient timings > Less passengers > etc. etc. Don't want to tempt fate...
The timings were just about do-able for a business trip but to get a r/t fare under £ 400 I'd have had about 3 hours in NCL........................
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 06:02
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Maybe, just maybe, BA are an experienced, sophisticated operator who know what the market wants and schedule and price accordingly.

If you want to travel at short notice on the most popular flights on one of the busiest days of the week on a heavily business orientated route, be prepared to pay for it. BA has been charging £600 or so for these sorts of flights for many a year.
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 15:11
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Originally Posted by jensdad
Hmm yes, very true. They don't seem to be the most reliable airline. With the fares they charge you'd think they could afford to run a dependable service but what do I know?
They had 1 serviceable aircraft across their J41 fleet on monday allegedly. I spoke to a TCX pilot this morning who had to get the train from Cardiff to London and London to NCL, which is ridiculous really, especially when it affects their working life. Their ops normally have no idea what is happening, had it on a few occasions when they have sent emails out asking where their aircraft are!

How on earth they are still in business is beyond me.

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Old 15th Aug 2018, 09:00
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Maybe, just maybe, BA are an experienced, sophisticated operator who know what the market wants and schedule and price accordingly.

If you want to travel at short notice on the most popular flights on one of the busiest days of the week on a heavily business orientated route, be prepared to pay for it. BA has been charging £600 or so for these sorts of flights for many a year.
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absolutely.. but it makes me far less likely to start with BA the next time I plan the trip.... £600 sort of sticks in the mind.. so I'll start with the train website, see £200 and think it's a bargain and book it.. maybe missing the £50 special BA fare that day.

plus of course £600 rtn Newcastle is a good story to tell o everyone at the water cooler..
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Passenger figures for July now showing on Airport's website as 622,410 compared to July last year's 618,365 - so a modest 4,000 increase in numbers.
Scheduled Domestic & International both showing increase, while Inclusive tour charters are down approx 2,500

https://www.newcastleairport.com/passengerstatistics
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Old 15th Aug 2018, 14:02
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June stats are now available on the CAA website
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Old 17th Aug 2018, 16:46
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Not much on here regarding next May and the European Rugby Union finals being held at St.James’ Park?
Would have thought if the right teams...ie French or Irish contest the final it should be good for,dare we say it,a couple of extra movements?


Bilbao this year with 30 plus charters I believe? DTV will take the overflow!
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Old 17th Aug 2018, 22:20
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Maybe because it's not until next May?
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 21:28
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Jet2 have been suffering quite a few delays over the past few weeks even accounting for the busy summer schedule at NCL.

A couple of notable delays today too:
LS585 Alicante 1515 delayed by 10 hours
LS533 Palma 1540 delayed by 7 hours

Is it the normal old fleet saga?
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 22:36
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What normal old fleet saga?
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 09:45
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
What normal old fleet saga?
Take a look at their NCL fleet - G-CELO for example...
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 09:52
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Yes, Iím well aware of LO, and?


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Old 20th Aug 2018, 11:39
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Average fleet age of European LCCs:

Easyjet: 7.4 years
Ryanair: 6.9 years
Wizz Air 4.6 years
Wow: 3.2 years
Vueling: 7.4 years
Eurowings: 9.6 years
Norwegian 3.8 years
Jet2: 14.5 years

I am fully aware that age does not necessarily reflect safety/reliability when it comes to aircraft, but Jet2 is clearly an outlier in terms of fleet age when it comes to European LCCs. Maybe Jet2 know better than other airlines?

Just for balance, the A319/320/321 or B737 fleets for major European FSCs are BA: 13.4 years, KLM 11.9 years, Air France: 14.2 years, Iberia 12.4 years, SAS 7.7 years, Lufthansa 12.8 years, Alitalia 13.1 years.
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