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Old 9th May 2018, 00:59
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
I hear Emirates are planning an Edinburgh root, could be interesting to see if it affects Newcastle pax numbers.
I think it has to, to some extent. The possibility of a second daily flight, remote as I believe it was, is probably dead in the water now.
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Old 9th May 2018, 07:32
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EDI DXB has a departure of 20:00 ish suggesting this is instead of a NCL evening flight and may benefit everyone without us needing a 2nd daily which was pie in the sky.
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The March Dubai pax figure was 22,557 up 10% on Mar.17 so certainly very healthy
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Old 9th May 2018, 11:57
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
The March Dubai pax figure was 22,557 up 10% on Mar.17 so certainly very healthy
Great to note progress EK has made. However it would be extremely naive to assume that EK moving into EDI won't have some effect on NCL - DXB LF's. Possibly predominantly PAX as opposed to freight. The catchment area for this flight extends some way beyond that of the "bucket & spade" & those Scot's that travel from the borders (in considerable numbers !) will be presented with additional choice, & indeed for some an evening departure may be a plus.
As with all EK departures in North of England, they can "move" pax demand around a bit with their price marketing, though this is possibly used more to fill empty seats. Again pricing strategy may assist in maintaining LF's but then this would be at a detriments to overall margins.
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Old 9th May 2018, 13:20
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I suspect it may affect some people in the Border area but Glasgow will suffer most

It allows them to put off adding a second flight to NCL for a few more years
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Old 10th May 2018, 00:56
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The best chance I see for Emirates to go double daily from Newcastle would be to put both flights on their 787 aircraft that they have ordered. The smaller capacity of the aircraft would allow two flights but cargo capacity should be maintained.
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Old 10th May 2018, 10:03
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Master plan 2035 released on the airport website. Aim for 7.4m pax by 2025, 9.6m by 2035. Safeguarding land for a 700m runway extension amongst others
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Old 10th May 2018, 13:18
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No point in having a longer runway to accommodate larger aircraft if youíve got nowhere to put them. The lack of definite plans for an extension to the terminal arenít confidence inspiring. At present there are three contact stands that can accommodate a 767 and only one that can take a A330/787 without using taking up other stands at the same time. Assuming the airport thinks it can attract new carriers which will bring the larger aircraft in addition to what it already has then some aspects of the plan seem to be all talk and no trousers.
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Old 10th May 2018, 14:32
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The airport is unlikely to see more than 3 LARGE aircraft at anyone time any way.

if we did get a link to the USA again the aircraft would be gone before EK arrived and if when we get the evening EK it will Be early evening again nothing else around.

unless TUI/TCX decide that for summer 2020 they basing 3 each daily of A330/787 (highly unlikely) then there isn't need to get bigger stands as not needed.

the bulk of extra flights which we will see will be on 320/321/737 aircrafts

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Old 10th May 2018, 16:23
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They obviously feel the need in future for a longer runway what would a 737 Max or A321 NEO perform like on the current runway if it was to head to the US East coast ?
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Old 10th May 2018, 16:45
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The long awaiting multi storey car park work due to start in october ive heard.

The airport is also hoping for the extra flights to come from NONE based aircraft from the likes of Ryanair and other airlines using off peak times
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Old 11th May 2018, 16:29
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Thank you very much! Can't wait

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I’ve noticed from Instagram pics that they seem to be putting the Tui 787 on stand 7 which definitely I don’t think is large enough for a 787 so I guess also overhangs onto stand 8 like the Emirates 777. It definitely was a shame that the airport didn’t mention anything concrete about a terminal extension, they do state that at peaks it’s very busy but other times not so we have to contend with more small additions like the security and new border extensions. Shame no mention of any work to rectify the pier, that’s very grubby and dirty and go do it’s a good refurb. I wonder if the would ever put a airbridge on stand 11.
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I've seen it park on 16 frequently, but never 7 - they both point in the same direction.
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Old 13th May 2018, 10:30
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Regarding your post on the 787 stand, the past week they have been doing works on stand 7/30 which is also why the Emirates has been occupying an alternative stand.
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Perhaps another pier would be ideal to the left of the terminal, but then you would possibly have to extend towards the tower to actually gain stands which would need more transport equipment to support the movement of pax and baggage. At the end of the day can they afford to do it.
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Old 13th May 2018, 23:12
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TUI 787 on some days will use stand 7/8 in parallel to the top of the pier as stand 9 will be used by the Emirates 777, this only applies if flight departs after EK arrival.

During the first lot of flights / first wave there is a lot of coaching flights from remote stands so a second pier would be ideal - but probably would never happen.
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Looks like CORK is another lost route after this summer season.
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Old 17th May 2018, 13:47
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A shame, although I must admit I'm not massively surprised by this. It's a pleasant enough place, but there's nothing breathtaking about it (there are days I think the same about Newcastle, before any Cork folk come on and slag me off! ). It doesn't have a large population and no obvious business links to Tyneside. It does seem though that a lot of routes started from NCL in the last decade or so are having trouble sticking around...
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