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Old 1st Oct 2017, 15:50
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Originally Posted by toledoashley View Post
Giles - you are absolutely right there. Buck stops with the CEO.
It has been good to see the CAA being fully involved....................... oh wait they were nowhere to be found.
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 15:51
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Another 24 hour reprieve.

If the holiday business is only 5% of the traffic and losing (potentially) its licence is causing some potentially catastrophic PR, why don't they just exit that segment and concetrate on scheduled if they are really in good shape ?
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 15:52
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The rot started the day Danny stood down, and staff unfortunately had to trust in the revolving door of management ****wits that followed him, none of whom actually had the ability to run an airline.

Instead they managed to drive it to the point of oblivion, while lining their own slimy pockets.

Sad.
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 15:53
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Monarch now saying on social media that 'Flights are running as scheduled today' and 'further information will be communicated with customers'.

Quite a change from this time last year.
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 15:53
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Originally Posted by Wee Weasley Welshman View Post
Do we seize the day and win big in the medium term? Or batten down the hatches and stick to our core business with enough cash and management focus to ride out the coming economic downturn?

Management focus is better on exsting business rather than getting dragging into this.
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 16:08
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Originally Posted by CCGE29 View Post
Monarch now saying on social media that 'Flights are running as scheduled today' and 'further information will be communicated with customers'.

Quite a change from this time last year.
Exactly my thoughts, last year they were much more positive on social media.

Not looking good for my November and June flights
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 16:08
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Another 24 hour reprieve.

Source, Non-Driver?
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 16:09
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piperboy you are charged with (and summarily found guilty of) writing a bright idea..........
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 16:12
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Unfortunately they can't really say anything else
But I guess in English it means all flights are fine today but after that we just can't say.
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 16:13
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I'm booked on a Monarch holiday in Jan.

So, even if it's just the holiday arm having issues, looks like I may need to look at other options....
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 16:17
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Originally Posted by daz211 View Post
Unfortunately they can't really say anything else
But I guess in English it means all flights are fine today but after that we just can't say.
I would say the staff know as much as the rest of us at the minute...
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 16:18
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Daily Mail...

Monarch's CEO sent an internal email - seen by MailOnline - to staff to remind them to 're-assure our customers'.

Andrew Swaffield wrote: 'You may have seen press reports and social media speculation about us this morning, about our ATOL licence and imminent future.

'And passengers may be asking as well. If you're a pilot or crew, or in another customer-facing role, please re-assure our customers, if asked, that our flights are operating as normal, carrying Monarch customers as scheduled.

'Our ATOL licence - which is for packaged holidays only - is with the CAA. Flight only bookings do not require an ATOL licence, in line with other airlines.

'I know this is unsettling and we will try to end this uncertainty as soon as we can. Thank you for your continued professionalism - I know it hard in the circumstances, but I appreciate it very much.'
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 16:18
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Not that bright an idea ... Ryanair is not suffering from a shortage of pilots ... it is suffering from a shortage of pilots prepared to work for the amount of money and terms/conditions that Paddy is offering ... loads of pilots around, just none that want to work for him. Adding more pilots to the pile from Monarch will not change that situation.
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 16:21
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Originally Posted by Lee J View Post
Daily Mail...
I think that explains exactly why the staff arenít given any real information.
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 16:32
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Looks closer to the mark.
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 16:36
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What proportion of Monarch's pilots are now trained on Boeing 737s, given the 737MAX orders due to start delivery next year? As Ryanair needs more pilots now, the arrival of a large group of A320-series only pilots wouldn't solve the immediate problem, though might help longer term, IF they accepted Ryanair terms.
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 17:13
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The 8 additional Qatar A320’s will depart Doha starting from 19:00z tonight. Destinations Gatwick and Birmingham ! The other two are still in Stansted
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 17:15
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Should a positive outcome pull out if this tomorrow, Andrew Swaffield should immediately be stood dowm. He is no leader.
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 17:16
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Very typical - the company having reasonably happy pilots goes under while another company having somewhat unhappy pilots is doing quite ok, actually much better than most others.
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Old 1st Oct 2017, 17:29
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Originally Posted by Captain_Caveman View Post
The 8 additional Qatar A320ís will depart Doha starting from 19:00z tonight. Destinations Gatwick and Birmingham ! The other two are still in Stansted
If true in my opinion a decision has already been made regarding the ATOL I just can't see the same happening again after bringing in other airlines from all over the world just to send them home again in a few days time.
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