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From: Button Moon
Putting the customers and company nostalgia to oneside, I feel bloody sorry for those at the coal face who, yet again, are wondering if they'll have a job and a pension at Christmas.
Someone needs to step in and take over. Whoever it maybe, let's hope for a positive outcome which has some chance of longevity rather than this annual circus. Thoughts and best wishes to those on the coal face at MON.
Someone needs to step in and take over. Whoever it maybe, let's hope for a positive outcome which has some chance of longevity rather than this annual circus. Thoughts and best wishes to those on the coal face at MON.
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From: STANSTED & MANCHESTER
If the flight only part of Monarch was to continue after the loss of the ATOL why would there be a need for repatriation flights from other airlines for the holiday arm of the company surly if the airline was to continue to operate as normally the holiday customers would just return as normal on Monarch flights so to me the loss of the ATOL would mean an end to Monarch in all sectors but this is just my opinion.
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From: London, UK
To be fair to Mike-Bracknell, it is the Sunday Times front page using the word "collapse" in its headline (one of no less than three articles it carries on Monarch today another of which fronts its Business section).
The Times and Sunday Times appear to be revelling at the prospect of 2,700 people losing their jobs and pensions and enjoying worrying "100,000" people that they will lose their flights or money.
The midnight edition of the ST last night even had a cartoon making a joke of the situation depicting a passenger having a conversation with a member of Monarch staff at the check-in. Looks like this has now been pulled by a morning editor.
The Times and Sunday Times appear to be doing all they can to expedite the airline's demise.
The Times and Sunday Times appear to be revelling at the prospect of 2,700 people losing their jobs and pensions and enjoying worrying "100,000" people that they will lose their flights or money.
The midnight edition of the ST last night even had a cartoon making a joke of the situation depicting a passenger having a conversation with a member of Monarch staff at the check-in. Looks like this has now been pulled by a morning editor.
The Times and Sunday Times appear to be doing all they can to expedite the airline's demise.
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From: London
No - they're reporting the facts. Are they supposed to keep quiet and let people continue to book flights with an airline who are clearly in trouble AGAIN?
lets face it airlines like BA, Easyjet and Ryanair don't lurch from crisis to crisis every 12 months.
There is clearly something horribly wrong with the business model at Monarch and their need for annual corrective action just shows how bad it must be
It's very hard on the employees but it's the owners and management who are to blame not the press
lets face it airlines like BA, Easyjet and Ryanair don't lurch from crisis to crisis every 12 months.
There is clearly something horribly wrong with the business model at Monarch and their need for annual corrective action just shows how bad it must be
It's very hard on the employees but it's the owners and management who are to blame not the press
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From: Button Moon
A company that's going from one crisis to another doesn't need another turnaround specialist. It's clearly a basket case and needs to be swallowed by another airline.
Very sad but surely that's the best thing all round at this point, not only for the customers but the employees as well. Someone needs to steady the ship and give stability to the business and it's employees going forward. I couldn't imagine anything worse than having this hanging over you every year.
Very sad but surely that's the best thing all round at this point, not only for the customers but the employees as well. Someone needs to steady the ship and give stability to the business and it's employees going forward. I couldn't imagine anything worse than having this hanging over you every year.
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From: bishops stortford herts
Reading between the lines but trying not to be to downbeat it may be safe to think the CAA may expect & coupled with the reasoning above that even if they wished too the airline would be unable to fly normal services...so a straight sub of the flight regardless of who`s covered by what is more straightforward & work out costings later..Approx 20,000 citizens stranded overseas is a big deal as I state again..The CAA of course have the authority to withdraw AOC`s too if there is any financial doubt about a UK airline..
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Ohhh dear what a mess, this is...
Total PR disaster for the airline, as it was this time last year!
The poor staff, being left hanging by a thread for the infinite time. Passengers who've worked hard all year for a holiday, wanting to know where they stand.
The big cheese at Monarch has so much to answer for, how were they allowed to let this happen last year and now again this year! At the end of the day the buck has to stop with the CEO.
He has failed to direct the airline and seems to change direction on what way they go more times than the wind. Also all these cash injections from investors, Im sure they want to know where their money has gone and why there are no returns!
They tried to bathe in this era, trying to convince passengers they offered good old fashioned customer service, when they were no different to other LCC.
I never understood these oddball flights this year to the likes of Stockholm and Zagreb, not exactly the biggest tourist destinations and not frequent enough for business travellers. The announcement of going long haul a few weeks ago was ridiculous, and is the next bloodbath waiting to happen.
They probably arrogantly thought they could complete a deal with a rival airline to merge or take over the short haul ops over the last two weeks, and the ATOL issue would have gone away. It clearly seems to be no airline wants to touch them in their current form, I suspect the Boeing order is a poison chalis and hence why we have heard nothing from the likes of easyJet, Norwegian, Wizz and Jet2 in taking them over, as they already have large orders for new aircraft and don't need more... These airlines are probably circling like vultures and waiting for the airline to drop down and will cherry pick the bits they want.
Even if the airline survives, certain individuals should be put up in-front of the Parliamentary Select Committee like the BHS staff, to explain how the airline is in this positiion again, where is all the money going, and made to reflect how this effects individuals like staff and passengers, which the airline seems to have no regard for.
Total PR disaster for the airline, as it was this time last year!
The poor staff, being left hanging by a thread for the infinite time. Passengers who've worked hard all year for a holiday, wanting to know where they stand.
The big cheese at Monarch has so much to answer for, how were they allowed to let this happen last year and now again this year! At the end of the day the buck has to stop with the CEO.
He has failed to direct the airline and seems to change direction on what way they go more times than the wind. Also all these cash injections from investors, Im sure they want to know where their money has gone and why there are no returns!
They tried to bathe in this era, trying to convince passengers they offered good old fashioned customer service, when they were no different to other LCC.
I never understood these oddball flights this year to the likes of Stockholm and Zagreb, not exactly the biggest tourist destinations and not frequent enough for business travellers. The announcement of going long haul a few weeks ago was ridiculous, and is the next bloodbath waiting to happen.
They probably arrogantly thought they could complete a deal with a rival airline to merge or take over the short haul ops over the last two weeks, and the ATOL issue would have gone away. It clearly seems to be no airline wants to touch them in their current form, I suspect the Boeing order is a poison chalis and hence why we have heard nothing from the likes of easyJet, Norwegian, Wizz and Jet2 in taking them over, as they already have large orders for new aircraft and don't need more... These airlines are probably circling like vultures and waiting for the airline to drop down and will cherry pick the bits they want.
Even if the airline survives, certain individuals should be put up in-front of the Parliamentary Select Committee like the BHS staff, to explain how the airline is in this positiion again, where is all the money going, and made to reflect how this effects individuals like staff and passengers, which the airline seems to have no regard for.
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I note Monarch are currently charging £252 one way for BHX BCN next Tuesday.
They've quadrupled their prices to deter anyone from booking? Or is it that nobody is booking and so they may as well get silly money out of the few idiot consumers who do?
Either way, desperate measures.
They've quadrupled their prices to deter anyone from booking? Or is it that nobody is booking and so they may as well get silly money out of the few idiot consumers who do?
Either way, desperate measures.
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From: Southampton
I had noticed that their fares had all of sudden gone up as last week I was looking at LGW to AGP for departing LGW on the 17 October returning 20 October and the basic return fare was £52 but now there over £200 each way!
Needless to say I won't be paying those fares when EasyJet come in so much cheaper or using Avios on British Airways.
Needless to say I won't be paying those fares when EasyJet come in so much cheaper or using Avios on British Airways.
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From: Cardiff
I note Monarch are currently charging £252 one way for BHX BCN next Tuesday.
They've quadrupled their prices to deter anyone from booking? Or is it that nobody is booking and so they may as well get silly money out of the few idiot consumers who do?
Either way, desperate measures.
They've quadrupled their prices to deter anyone from booking? Or is it that nobody is booking and so they may as well get silly money out of the few idiot consumers who do?
Either way, desperate measures.
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From: Wor Yerm
Reports last week claimed that the company was working with KPMG to find future options for its short-haul business by securing a joint venture with a second airline.
