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I too wonder if a special APD cut can happen to help the routes as seen as they are touted as being valuable links, or does that only apply to Belfast and their 'special situation', you know, where they are trying to stem the flow of passengers to a larger southern airport. Hang on, that sounds familiar as it happens.......
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Should they prehaps of left SFO and just focused on a decent BOS service. Frequency attracts higher yield passengers. Their fares were actually competitive.
Was it a rushed reaction to TCX?
I don't see APD going anywhere, lot of death and going to be a lot more over next few years.
Was it a rushed reaction to TCX?
I don't see APD going anywhere, lot of death and going to be a lot more over next few years.
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It's been touted that it's actually BOS that's the issue. Maybe a decent 5 weekly SFO as seen as it's been in the press many times about being a valuable business link for the digital sector, and leave BOS to TCX for the leisure offering.
It's been touted that it's actually BOS that's the issue. Maybe a decent 5 weekly SFO as seen as it's been in the press many times about being a valuable business link for the digital sector, and leave BOS to TCX for the leisure offering.
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Apparently VLM are going to resume their Manchester-Antwerp route with the F50:
VLM Airlines: Antwerpen blijft belangrijke basis | Luchtvaartnieuws
What are we going to wager on it lasting this time, 3 months? (Or is that still too optimistic?)
They also aim to add Manchester-Maribor with A320 later on when their A340/A320 base opens there.
VLM Airlines: Antwerpen blijft belangrijke basis | Luchtvaartnieuws
According to news agency Belga allow connections from Antwerp including Manchester
They also aim to add Manchester-Maribor with A320 later on when their A340/A320 base opens there.
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?Edinburgh is fastest growing UK airport for international passengers | Edinburgh Airport
Interesting article. While EDI is heralding they are the fastest growing airport percentage wise, Manchester was actually fastest based on actual number of passengers added, which to me, is pretty impressive.
Interesting article. While EDI is heralding they are the fastest growing airport percentage wise, Manchester was actually fastest based on actual number of passengers added, which to me, is pretty impressive.
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How many times has this route been tried and dumped?
Antwerp is the European centre for diamonds, but unfortunately unlike its precious commodity, the Antwerp route does not seem to be 'forever'.
Antwerp is the European centre for diamonds, but unfortunately unlike its precious commodity, the Antwerp route does not seem to be 'forever'.
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You're quite right, of course, but there's no harm in bigging yourself up bit!
I also agree that the relentless increase in UK-origin PAX will grind to a halt, and not just to the USA. As the fall in the £ works through into holiday prices, that second or third holiday may have to be given up. Even this summer there may be less call for peak season extra flights using wet-leased a/c.
You're quite right, of course, but there's no harm in bigging yourself up bit!
I also agree that the relentless increase in UK-origin PAX will grind to a halt, and not just to the USA. As the fall in the £ works through into holiday prices, that second or third holiday may have to be given up. Even this summer there may be less call for peak season extra flights using wet-leased a/c.
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I used to use this route quite a bit a few years ago when it had the advantage of being the last flight to Belgium, at 1930, and it was usually about half-full on a Fokker 50. Flights back on a Sunday often only had about 15 passengers though. Shame it stopped, as Antwerp airport is fantastic with check in 15 minutes before boarding; on arrival you can be on the taxi rank in five minutes after stepping off the plane. Let's see what the new timetable - if it happens - will bring.
How many times has this route been tried and dumped?
Antwerp is the European centre for diamonds, but unfortunately unlike its precious commodity, the Antwerp route does not seem to be 'forever'.
Antwerp is the European centre for diamonds, but unfortunately unlike its precious commodity, the Antwerp route does not seem to be 'forever'.
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If things are looking tight on UK-US, running an A333 on MAN-JFK rather than the planned B752 seems like something that might need revising? A shame Delta are rewarding long seeving staff with the sack given the B767/B757 might be a better fit than anything Virgin have for 2018! Coupled with Norwegian not taking the plunge, the chance is for TCX to strengthen their position in the leisure space as Delta exit and American continue to drift.
Whatever happens, BA is in no way the answer IMHO. Virgin B757 lease perhaps? Daily A333 for JFK in Feb seems fragile.
Whatever happens, BA is in no way the answer IMHO. Virgin B757 lease perhaps? Daily A333 for JFK in Feb seems fragile.
The Virgin A330 to JFK is only daily from about mid July to September. Before and after those months is now mostly 6 weekly.
Have there actually been any announcements about what's happening to JFK for the winter ? All we know at the moment is that the VS A330 ends on 28Oct, and DL staff are apparently being laid off.
GDS still shows a daily DL 757 from 29Oct - as does the Delta website. Is it possible DL will re-employ staff nearer the time on seasonal contracts to handle the winter 757 ops ? Or with the deepening DL/VS partnership perhaps VS staff are going to take on the roles of the displaced DL staff, thereby saving costs.
Or could it be there will be nothing from VS/DL for JFK after 29Oct and they are just planning to go summer seasonal ?
Either way it looks like the lower pound is starting to bite into travel plans and there are some challenging times ahead for UK originating traffic to the USA.
Have there actually been any announcements about what's happening to JFK for the winter ? All we know at the moment is that the VS A330 ends on 28Oct, and DL staff are apparently being laid off.
GDS still shows a daily DL 757 from 29Oct - as does the Delta website. Is it possible DL will re-employ staff nearer the time on seasonal contracts to handle the winter 757 ops ? Or with the deepening DL/VS partnership perhaps VS staff are going to take on the roles of the displaced DL staff, thereby saving costs.
Or could it be there will be nothing from VS/DL for JFK after 29Oct and they are just planning to go summer seasonal ?
Either way it looks like the lower pound is starting to bite into travel plans and there are some challenging times ahead for UK originating traffic to the USA.
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All DL staff given notice, airports and engineering,
Have AA suspended the JFK flight ex MAN after summer or are they just not loaded yet?
There aren't any BA plans for MAN.
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My info is that the JFK and ORD will cease from October. But it's old info and the way things are going anything could happen.
It's been touted that it's actually BOS that's the issue. Maybe a decent 5 weekly SFO as seen as it's been in the press many times about being a valuable business link for the digital sector, and leave BOS to TCX for the leisure offering.