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Link to the development proposals is here:
Manchester Airport Transformation Programme
I suspect that some people posting on here have seen far more than this though!
Shed is absolutely right to point out that an airport such as MAN needs a range of different types of facility to meet the needs of its diverse airline base. It's a lesson that still hasn't been learned by many other UK airports.
can't get the quote function to work but in response to the quote above, I completely agree that MAN has its work cut out to build a facility for the future. If you look at similarly sized airports or terminal building projects then you often see the common thread of either a dominant carrier such as BA (LHR T5), Emirates (DXB T3), Etihad (AUH Midfield), Qatar (New Doha) who an airport can work closely with and provide for or that you have an airport that caters for specific types of plane, particularly the narrow body jets (KLIA2, STN, Palma de Mallorca).
MAN has to build an airport that caters for high cost to low cost. It needs huge lounges for carriers like EK and EY whilst it needs to minimise the journey time from arrival to gate for business flights on Flybe and BA. It needs to cater for charter and scheduled and airlines such as Virgin who could have only 787s in 10 years but who have orders for A380s still. It wants US pre-clearance too and needs to accommodate pax coming off a Flybe Dash 8 wanting to transfer onto an EY or CX 777 or even now an EK A380. It's not straightforward.
MAN is complex and they've been stung before. T2 was built for wide body charter carriers before that market collapsed. T3 for BA before they pulled out. What now? What do you build when you don't know what the demand will be over the timeframe.
In saying that. I think the plans as they stand are pretty good and the money will hopefully be spent in the right way. Only having two terminals is the way forward for sure as the biggest problems for pax are often at security and certainly at immigration (for me that's the biggest issue). You lose efficiency with three terminals and if it can't be one terminal then it'll have to be two that are fully integrated. It's got to be the way forward.
Manchester Airport Transformation Programme
I suspect that some people posting on here have seen far more than this though!
Shed is absolutely right to point out that an airport such as MAN needs a range of different types of facility to meet the needs of its diverse airline base. It's a lesson that still hasn't been learned by many other UK airports.
can't get the quote function to work but in response to the quote above, I completely agree that MAN has its work cut out to build a facility for the future. If you look at similarly sized airports or terminal building projects then you often see the common thread of either a dominant carrier such as BA (LHR T5), Emirates (DXB T3), Etihad (AUH Midfield), Qatar (New Doha) who an airport can work closely with and provide for or that you have an airport that caters for specific types of plane, particularly the narrow body jets (KLIA2, STN, Palma de Mallorca).
MAN has to build an airport that caters for high cost to low cost. It needs huge lounges for carriers like EK and EY whilst it needs to minimise the journey time from arrival to gate for business flights on Flybe and BA. It needs to cater for charter and scheduled and airlines such as Virgin who could have only 787s in 10 years but who have orders for A380s still. It wants US pre-clearance too and needs to accommodate pax coming off a Flybe Dash 8 wanting to transfer onto an EY or CX 777 or even now an EK A380. It's not straightforward.
MAN is complex and they've been stung before. T2 was built for wide body charter carriers before that market collapsed. T3 for BA before they pulled out. What now? What do you build when you don't know what the demand will be over the timeframe.
In saying that. I think the plans as they stand are pretty good and the money will hopefully be spent in the right way. Only having two terminals is the way forward for sure as the biggest problems for pax are often at security and certainly at immigration (for me that's the biggest issue). You lose efficiency with three terminals and if it can't be one terminal then it'll have to be two that are fully integrated. It's got to be the way forward.
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Looks like Air Livery has gotten back the Lufthansa contract from DUB, as a Lufthansa A330 due in 45 minutes from FRA.
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can't get the quote function to work but in response to the quote above, I completely agree that MAN has its work cut out to build a facility for the future. If you look at similarly sized airports or terminal building projects then you often see the common thread of either a dominant carrier such as BA (LHR T5), Emirates (DXB T3), Etihad (AUH Midfield), Qatar (New Doha) who an airport can work closely with and provide for or that you have an airport that caters for specific types of plane, particularly the narrow body jets (KLIA2, STN, Palma de Mallorca).
MAN has to build an airport that caters for high cost to low cost. It needs huge lounges for carriers like EK and EY whilst it needs to minimise the journey time from arrival to gate for business flights on Flybe and BA. It needs to cater for charter and scheduled and airlines such as Virgin who could have only 787s in 10 years but who have orders for A380s still. It wants US pre-clearance too and needs to accommodate pax coming off a Flybe Dash 8 wanting to transfer onto an EY or CX 777 or even now an EK A380. It's not straightforward.
MAN is complex and they've been stung before. T2 was built for wide body charter carriers before that market collapsed. T3 for BA before they pulled out. What now? What do you build when you don't know what the demand will be over the timeframe.
In saying that. I think the plans as they stand are pretty good and the money will hopefully be spent in the right way. Only having two terminals is the way forward for sure as the biggest problems for pax are often at security and certainly at immigration (for me that's the biggest issue). You lose efficiency with three terminals and if it can't be one terminal then it'll have to be two that are fully integrated. It's got to be the way forward.
MAN has to build an airport that caters for high cost to low cost. It needs huge lounges for carriers like EK and EY whilst it needs to minimise the journey time from arrival to gate for business flights on Flybe and BA. It needs to cater for charter and scheduled and airlines such as Virgin who could have only 787s in 10 years but who have orders for A380s still. It wants US pre-clearance too and needs to accommodate pax coming off a Flybe Dash 8 wanting to transfer onto an EY or CX 777 or even now an EK A380. It's not straightforward.
MAN is complex and they've been stung before. T2 was built for wide body charter carriers before that market collapsed. T3 for BA before they pulled out. What now? What do you build when you don't know what the demand will be over the timeframe.
In saying that. I think the plans as they stand are pretty good and the money will hopefully be spent in the right way. Only having two terminals is the way forward for sure as the biggest problems for pax are often at security and certainly at immigration (for me that's the biggest issue). You lose efficiency with three terminals and if it can't be one terminal then it'll have to be two that are fully integrated. It's got to be the way forward.
Is there any better link to the plans the above doesn't show a lot. They should really be looking to design a basic but good pier for loco carriers similar to Pier D in Dublin where FR base ops. Airlines such as 4U, WW, DY, SK, TOM, IB all operate (granted some don't when contract stands are available) but I am sure carriers such as LS, ZB or EZY wouldn't have a problem operating at such a facility.
As for USPC those piers in the link above will be very tight for a USPC facility unless you plan for the screening/security area backing into T2.
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FLYBE
It seems from postings on the flybe thread that they had a bad day yesterday and that MAN was worst affected. With MAN, along with BHX, being a substantial base, perhaps not surprising if we had most cancellations. Nevertheless, given that MAN is a hub for the airline in terms of its own flights and through its code sharing arrangements with several airlines, it's not encouraging and nor does it build confidence, as this extract from one of the posts shows.
"Manchester flights were chaotic, and we were told due to staffing issues and tech problems, although this was far from clear. Stood in queues for several hours at IOM airport. Trying again today. Lots of unhappy passengers being forced to miss onward flights"
Hopefully this was a rare rather than frequent occurrence, as reports suggest that flybe is becoming an increasingly useful feeder for a variety of MAN services.
It seems from postings on the flybe thread that they had a bad day yesterday and that MAN was worst affected. With MAN, along with BHX, being a substantial base, perhaps not surprising if we had most cancellations. Nevertheless, given that MAN is a hub for the airline in terms of its own flights and through its code sharing arrangements with several airlines, it's not encouraging and nor does it build confidence, as this extract from one of the posts shows.
"Manchester flights were chaotic, and we were told due to staffing issues and tech problems, although this was far from clear. Stood in queues for several hours at IOM airport. Trying again today. Lots of unhappy passengers being forced to miss onward flights"
Hopefully this was a rare rather than frequent occurrence, as reports suggest that flybe is becoming an increasingly useful feeder for a variety of MAN services.
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Thomas Cook 2016:
TCX appear to adding another based A320/A321 for next summer.
New flights:
Sun - Hurghada
Mon - Antalya/Tenerife
Tue - Zakinthos
Wed - Menorca
Thu - Tenerife
Fri - Fuertaventura
Sat - Reus/Sharm el Sheik.
TCX appear to adding another based A320/A321 for next summer.
New flights:
Sun - Hurghada
Mon - Antalya/Tenerife
Tue - Zakinthos
Wed - Menorca
Thu - Tenerife
Fri - Fuertaventura
Sat - Reus/Sharm el Sheik.
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Currently they have 2 A321 and 1 leased A320
Looks like next summer will have 4 A321 and 1 leased A320. One is an additional aircraft for expansion and the other replaces the 757.
Looks like next summer will have 4 A321 and 1 leased A320. One is an additional aircraft for expansion and the other replaces the 757.
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Icelandair
The 4th weekly service (Sun) only operated from Feb 8th to April 19th. Was it only planned as a short term increase or were there other reasons for it ceasing ?
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Ryanair MAN-BCN is currently bookable as 3 weekly for this coming winter.
However, their online timetable suggests a daily service will run, with a mix of 06:30, 16:30 or 19:10 departures on alternate days.
Great news, as I've often considered MAN-BCN underserved in the winter with the lack of a daily service by all the carriers.
Pre-emptive strike against the much rumoured Vueling base at MAN perhaps?
However, their online timetable suggests a daily service will run, with a mix of 06:30, 16:30 or 19:10 departures on alternate days.
Great news, as I've often considered MAN-BCN underserved in the winter with the lack of a daily service by all the carriers.
Pre-emptive strike against the much rumoured Vueling base at MAN perhaps?
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Germanwings to upgrade the morning Düsseldorf to A319 for August. Hamburg also sees many upgrades.
United to announce Chicago in next few months. Will start end of May and run to end of Sept on B757-200. GDS briefly saw UA102/103 flight numbers, but, have since been removed so could change.
United to announce Chicago in next few months. Will start end of May and run to end of Sept on B757-200. GDS briefly saw UA102/103 flight numbers, but, have since been removed so could change.
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Originally Posted by LAX_LHR
Pre-emptive strike against the much rumoured Vueling base at MAN perhaps?
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United to announce Chicago in next few months. Will start end of May and run to end of Sept on B757-200. GDS briefly saw UA102/103 flight numbers, but, have since been removed so could change.
United hubs are DEN (would be great!), IAH (yes,please), LAX (long story), EWR (tick), ORD (see above), SFO (and LAX?) and IAD (tick).
Icelandair
The 4th weekly service (Sun) only operated from Feb 8th to April 19th. Was it only planned as a short term increase or were there other reasons for it ceasing ?
FI are also adding a 5th weekly flight on Thursdays, but it's currently only bookable for February to April.
Being reported elsewhere that the Vueling base is a done deal with 2 x A320s based from S16?