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Vuelling
Fri, Sat, Sun from 26/6/16 on based aircraft
Nightstopping a/c or a/c that are based at MAN permanently?
Thanks.
OK thanks, best get my Airbus training notes out. 
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Austrian will run an extra flight on 27th December from MAN to VIE as OS1474, one way only, however, it's down as a B777-200.
One presumes it's a 'dead leg' flight after a charter or visit to the paint shop. The normal MAN flight still runs later in the day, so, maybe Austrian are seeing if they can make money rather tan just position the aircraft back to VIE.
The flight is bookable on their website, so, a good chance to take a wide body intra Europe flight.
One presumes it's a 'dead leg' flight after a charter or visit to the paint shop. The normal MAN flight still runs later in the day, so, maybe Austrian are seeing if they can make money rather tan just position the aircraft back to VIE.
The flight is bookable on their website, so, a good chance to take a wide body intra Europe flight.
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Turkish Airlines will upgrade the evening TK1491/1492 from the B737-700/800 to the B737-900/A321 over the winter.
Also, this flight goes from 4 weekly over winter to 5 weekly, making MAN-IST 19 weekly in winter.
The A330 is also making frequent visits on the TK1993/1994 over winter too.
Turkish seem to be holding their own against the might of the MEB3 at MAN!
Also, this flight goes from 4 weekly over winter to 5 weekly, making MAN-IST 19 weekly in winter.
The A330 is also making frequent visits on the TK1993/1994 over winter too.
Turkish seem to be holding their own against the might of the MEB3 at MAN!
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I totally agree.
Turkish actually serves more destinations, but, because for Europe at least, it uses more narrowbodies than wide bodies, it doesn't seem to attract the same clamour as say, Emirates with is fleet of B77W's and A380's.
Turkish actually serves more destinations, but, because for Europe at least, it uses more narrowbodies than wide bodies, it doesn't seem to attract the same clamour as say, Emirates with is fleet of B77W's and A380's.
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and, much like the MEB3 with their shiny new terminals / airports or with new ones on the way (AUH, DWC), Turkish is going to get a mega-hub of it's own too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_New_Airport
I definitely see it as MEB4 these days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_New_Airport
I definitely see it as MEB4 these days.
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Hi guys
I wrote a long summary of my recent meetings in Sydney with various airlines, but the internet deleted it.
So, instead I'll do a summary, and apologise for gaps!
AI - MAN in the two destinations flagged as amongst the next 6 or 7 cities to be served when their numerous 787s come online, alongside BCN.
SQ - looked at non stop 3x week but stuck with daily. Around time MOW was being questioned. Now believe their reputation and daily service will counter CX's non stop 4pw (it won't! They must surely have MIDT and see the traffic they're losing....can only assume it's an SQ fleet issue?)
EY - Lurve MAN - keen to support and promote stuff like MCFC but don't need sales support, defer marketing to Brussels and Dublin if possible. J class ex MAN is approaching or achieving target even when Y is slow (Nov, Feb)
EK - only feedback is not to push MAN or LHR. They're busy enough and don't need support. Preferred points are BHX then LGW (my company deals mostly in tours where NCL and GLA would not be an option). As above - premium demand was "amazing" from MAN.
QR - focussing on their (mostly) great onboard product.
QF - honourable mention - MAN was one of five (someone can fact check this?) destinations chosen as key cities when QF took codes on EK flight numbers. No remote possibility of seeing QF metal in MAN but it is in their top 5 cities for revenue.
CX - pleasantly surprised by loads. Too full for the last few weeks - 100% loads are actually not a good thing. However - we have yet to see a true low season (introductory period aside) so the jury is still out. CX is a cautious beast. We were initially on the list of A350 cities but now seem more likely to get increased 77W service when they become available.
I wrote a long summary of my recent meetings in Sydney with various airlines, but the internet deleted it.
So, instead I'll do a summary, and apologise for gaps!
AI - MAN in the two destinations flagged as amongst the next 6 or 7 cities to be served when their numerous 787s come online, alongside BCN.
SQ - looked at non stop 3x week but stuck with daily. Around time MOW was being questioned. Now believe their reputation and daily service will counter CX's non stop 4pw (it won't! They must surely have MIDT and see the traffic they're losing....can only assume it's an SQ fleet issue?)
EY - Lurve MAN - keen to support and promote stuff like MCFC but don't need sales support, defer marketing to Brussels and Dublin if possible. J class ex MAN is approaching or achieving target even when Y is slow (Nov, Feb)
EK - only feedback is not to push MAN or LHR. They're busy enough and don't need support. Preferred points are BHX then LGW (my company deals mostly in tours where NCL and GLA would not be an option). As above - premium demand was "amazing" from MAN.
QR - focussing on their (mostly) great onboard product.
QF - honourable mention - MAN was one of five (someone can fact check this?) destinations chosen as key cities when QF took codes on EK flight numbers. No remote possibility of seeing QF metal in MAN but it is in their top 5 cities for revenue.
CX - pleasantly surprised by loads. Too full for the last few weeks - 100% loads are actually not a good thing. However - we have yet to see a true low season (introductory period aside) so the jury is still out. CX is a cautious beast. We were initially on the list of A350 cities but now seem more likely to get increased 77W service when they become available.
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Has anyone pax number info on the Virgin MAN-ATL service compared to last years Delta MAN-ATL figures?
Per the CAA stats: (July provisional)
April 12,940 (+31%) Average load 216
May 13,607 (+27%) Average Load 219
June 11,946 (+4%) Average Load 199
July 12,062 (-1%) Average Load 195
April was a LF of 81% and July 73% if all flights operated
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All MAN-ATL flights operated, but, I'm told that due to cost bases etc, yield on the route is up, with VS/DL 'very happy' with the results. Obviously I do not have the specifics of such claims.
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Informative post however why would EY market via MAN at DUB/BRU when they serve both and can make a higher profit per seat than sell seats via MAN with APD. I expect both routes are also not bursting at the scenes to warrant passengers to take MAN option.
Combined when the small problem of EK which would win if passengers were encouraged to travel via MAN. 3 stop routes wont appeal to most!
Informative post however why would EY market via MAN at DUB/BRU when they serve both and can make a higher profit per seat than sell seats via MAN with APD. I expect both routes are also not bursting at the scenes to warrant passengers to take MAN option.
Combined when the small problem of EK which would win if passengers were encouraged to travel via MAN. 3 stop routes wont appeal to most!
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Hi j636
Apologies, I was not very clear! I'm based in Australia and as such all traffic is TO Europe.
A large portion of our customers have a longer average stay in Europe and as such are flexible when it comes to their destination. Airlines commonly ask us to coax passengers to use certain flights or avoid certain cities. Pax often fly into Heathrow almost as a reflex. Airlines are keen to guide traffic to destinations whose loads are poorer rather than those where yields are higher.
In the case of EY, as an example, last year they asked us to avoid DUB as loads were very good. Earlier this year, DUB was singled out as required extra support.
Apologies, I was not very clear! I'm based in Australia and as such all traffic is TO Europe.
A large portion of our customers have a longer average stay in Europe and as such are flexible when it comes to their destination. Airlines commonly ask us to coax passengers to use certain flights or avoid certain cities. Pax often fly into Heathrow almost as a reflex. Airlines are keen to guide traffic to destinations whose loads are poorer rather than those where yields are higher.
In the case of EY, as an example, last year they asked us to avoid DUB as loads were very good. Earlier this year, DUB was singled out as required extra support.
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All MAN-ATL flights operated, but, I'm told that due to cost bases etc, yield on the route is up, with VS/DL 'very happy' with the results.
Interesting comments by 110 Cornets about premium demand at MAN.
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UNITED AIRLINES
MAN departures showing a second EWR flight at 11.30 (UA 2110) as well as the normal 09.25 flight UA 80.
Looking at the UA web site I'd like to think it was due to demand, as the first flight could be full (it doesn't come up as an option) and the extra shows only about 10 available seats. Or on a less optimistic note, has the first a/c gone tech?
MAN departures showing a second EWR flight at 11.30 (UA 2110) as well as the normal 09.25 flight UA 80.
Looking at the UA web site I'd like to think it was due to demand, as the first flight could be full (it doesn't come up as an option) and the extra shows only about 10 available seats. Or on a less optimistic note, has the first a/c gone tech?