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There will be an extension to the existing multi storey car park in front of T2. A further, large multi storey will be built west of T2 next to the M56 spur, and lastly a large meet and greet car park will be built in the triangular piece of land in the middle of the M56 spur junction.
In terms of airport city, there have been infrastructure works such as water, telecoms and electricity, and then the build should be starting in the next few weeks.
In terms of airport city, there have been infrastructure works such as water, telecoms and electricity, and then the build should be starting in the next few weeks.
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The viewing park is in my view to the south rather than west. The airport do own land here but it would be difficult to develop for environmental reasons including an SSSI. Also any development here was intended for activities needing direct access to the runways.
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There will be 8 code F contact stands, and 7 remote code F stands.
6 of the contact stands will be on the 3rd finger pier closest to T1, with 3 on each side (will also be MARS stands), one will be on the pier closest to the M56 so that pre clearance gates have a code F stand if needed, and the last contact stand will be gate 12, which will remain code F as not only a relief gate, but also, it will remain the main A380 gate until the bulk of construction is done.
The 7 remotes will be where the current stand 61 is, and, 5 on cargo so they can handle the B747-8F freighters.
The last code F gate will be in a small triangle of apron between the last finger pier and B pier, this will be where aircraft such as the AN225 park if they visit.
6 of the contact stands will be on the 3rd finger pier closest to T1, with 3 on each side (will also be MARS stands), one will be on the pier closest to the M56 so that pre clearance gates have a code F stand if needed, and the last contact stand will be gate 12, which will remain code F as not only a relief gate, but also, it will remain the main A380 gate until the bulk of construction is done.
The 7 remotes will be where the current stand 61 is, and, 5 on cargo so they can handle the B747-8F freighters.
The last code F gate will be in a small triangle of apron between the last finger pier and B pier, this will be where aircraft such as the AN225 park if they visit.
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Major trade mission to Asia led by PM with emphasis on London BUT delegation showcasing N West ls being fronted by a junior minister!
To say Leese Emmerich etc are apoplectic is an understatement.
It's precisely this type of clumsy planning which leads to a fragmented view of how the UK is perceived from outside markets and reinforces the view that London is the place to be.
Clearly it does not help MAN extend reach.
Whitehall civil servants yet again need a good kicking !
To say Leese Emmerich etc are apoplectic is an understatement.
It's precisely this type of clumsy planning which leads to a fragmented view of how the UK is perceived from outside markets and reinforces the view that London is the place to be.
Clearly it does not help MAN extend reach.
Whitehall civil servants yet again need a good kicking !
Speaking from Singapore, Mr Lloyd said he had already met a range of potential investors, including major sovereign wealth funds from the state.
He is joined on the mission by dozens of northern companies all seeking to forge links with foreign investors.
Mr Lloyd said: “Greater Manchester is the vital cornerstone of the northern powerhouse and one of the fastest growing economic regions in the world.
“This is a high powered delegation with some 50 companies, some of them blue chip and other rising stars of enterprise across the north.
and then
The mission - which has been called the first ‘one nation’ trade delegation - includes representatives from local organisations including Transport for Greater Manchester and the universities of Salford and Bolton, as well as property developers Urban Splash and digital firm FutureEverything, which has already won a £500,000 contract with the Singaporean government.
He is joined on the mission by dozens of northern companies all seeking to forge links with foreign investors.
Mr Lloyd said: “Greater Manchester is the vital cornerstone of the northern powerhouse and one of the fastest growing economic regions in the world.
“This is a high powered delegation with some 50 companies, some of them blue chip and other rising stars of enterprise across the north.
and then
The mission - which has been called the first ‘one nation’ trade delegation - includes representatives from local organisations including Transport for Greater Manchester and the universities of Salford and Bolton, as well as property developers Urban Splash and digital firm FutureEverything, which has already won a £500,000 contract with the Singaporean government.
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Don't get me started on Pier B. Practically every airline consultation asked for its removal, but, good ol' penny pinching won the debate.
One of the proposed ideas was to run T2 to approximately where the old control tower is, join it up to T3 there and have 2 more finger piers in the space where the main area of T1 and the B pier is now.
One of the proposed ideas was to run T2 to approximately where the old control tower is, join it up to T3 there and have 2 more finger piers in the space where the main area of T1 and the B pier is now.
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There will be 8 code F contact stands, and 7 remote code F stands...
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Come now. we don't rant without substance or motive.
...it was based on a comment by The Holy Trinity at Manchester Town Hall who "felt" they were a sideshow, and commented publicly as such !
Not any more, but suspect a few "texts" were sent between Mancunia, Malaysia and landing in Singapore.
job done.
splendid news !
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Damn that Pier B, I thought we were getting one slab sided terminal !
Do we yet know how many stands we have now and how many "net" we will have after the fault lines have been fixed ?
Come now. we don't rant without substance or motive.
...it was based on a comment by The Holy Trinity at Manchester Town Hall who "felt" they were a sideshow, and commented publicly as such !
Not any more, but suspect a few "texts" were sent between Mancunia, Malaysia and landing in Singapore.
job done.
splendid news !
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Damn that Pier B, I thought we were getting one slab sided terminal !
Do we yet know how many stands we have now and how many "net" we will have after the fault lines have been fixed ?
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Don't get me started on Pier B. Practically every airline consultation asked for its removal, but, good ol' penny pinching won the debate.
One of the proposed ideas was to run T2 to approximately where the old control tower is, join it up to T3 there and have 2 more finger piers in the space where the main area of T1 and the B pier is now.
One of the proposed ideas was to run T2 to approximately where the old control tower is, join it up to T3 there and have 2 more finger piers in the space where the main area of T1 and the B pier is now.
Of course the challenge is how will they run the connection between what is now T2 and T3. That routing will determine future airside and stand development flexibility. If it is run in the wrong place landslide development will fill in the remaining space and basically limit future stand growth.
Incidentally, the distance from the current T2 security to the end of Pier B is over 1km. That's a pretty long way, longer than check-in to furthest gate at AMS or LGW, even LHR has shorter walks. The airport with longer distances often have transit systems. It is quite possible that MAN will have flight connection walking distances over 2km when all is complete, more than double what the longest walk is now (airside).
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LAX: Don't get me started on Pier B. Practically every airline consultation asked for its removal, but, good ol' penny pinching won the debate.
Now I'm worried.
Are we getting the much alluded to 'world-class facility' or yet another lash together cheap-ass compromise like much of the other terminal developmemts in the last 50 years?
....AND they ignored the advice of all their airline customers?
Now I'm worried.
Are we getting the much alluded to 'world-class facility' or yet another lash together cheap-ass compromise like much of the other terminal developmemts in the last 50 years?
....AND they ignored the advice of all their airline customers?
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My view on Pier B is that the Airport wants to increase capacity and shift the focus to T2. To do this it needs to spend a lot of money on T2 including the link to T1 and onto T3. It may therefore not have the money to replace Pier B (right now) which would not necessarily have any capacity enhancement at this stage either. Perhaps after this masterplan is complete, there will be another stage.
Also worth noting that assuming all wide bodies are moved to T2 then we'll only be seeing aircraft no bigger than a B737 / A320 on Pier B in any case and possibly smaller aircraft than that in general. It won't be such an issue with fewer passengers.
It's a shame that it's not going though.
One other thing I find odd is that the T1 departures area is apparently going but to me this could still have a function as an intermediary lounge area for pax checking in from either T2 or T3 and using gates in that area.
Let's not forget it's still early days in the design as well.
Also worth noting that assuming all wide bodies are moved to T2 then we'll only be seeing aircraft no bigger than a B737 / A320 on Pier B in any case and possibly smaller aircraft than that in general. It won't be such an issue with fewer passengers.
It's a shame that it's not going though.
One other thing I find odd is that the T1 departures area is apparently going but to me this could still have a function as an intermediary lounge area for pax checking in from either T2 or T3 and using gates in that area.
Let's not forget it's still early days in the design as well.
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All names taken. I think you know the answer to that.
They are saving their money to expand that other airport at the right time.
I have no doubt in my mind that MAG being a business first sees STN as its principal asset now.
They are saving their money to expand that other airport at the right time.
I have no doubt in my mind that MAG being a business first sees STN as its principal asset now.
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EGGC I agree with you on that, take it back to a shell and then rebuild
you see that often nowdays with buildings, infact there is one near where I live which
has been gutted and now looks like a new build
Ian
you see that often nowdays with buildings, infact there is one near where I live which
has been gutted and now looks like a new build
Ian
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I'm surprised folk think that won't happen Ian. We all know pier B is well over due a revamp so it's beyond doubt MAN don't...they would not leave it as it is surrounded by brand facilities...that'd be just daft.
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Two things don't stack up about this suggestion that Pier B will stay:
1. It's actually the worst part of the entire airport now and getting rid of it should have been the inspiration for the Masterplan. Its the opposite of 'world-class'.
2. How do you knock down Terminal 1 and keep Pier B??
1. It's actually the worst part of the entire airport now and getting rid of it should have been the inspiration for the Masterplan. Its the opposite of 'world-class'.
2. How do you knock down Terminal 1 and keep Pier B??
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1) it will be refurbished. However, complaints were made that this wasn't enough as it's currently unfit for purpose based on current passenger levels. There are no holding areas at the gates meaning it just turns into a jumbled mess when flights are boarding. Many airlines have argued that the B pier needs to be wider to allow a more robust operational and passenger experience.
2) in terms of joining B pier to Terminal 2, T2 will extend East, curve southwards and join up to the end of B pier once the C pier has been demolished. There are plenty of graphics on the net that were released on the launch date showing how it would work.
2) in terms of joining B pier to Terminal 2, T2 will extend East, curve southwards and join up to the end of B pier once the C pier has been demolished. There are plenty of graphics on the net that were released on the launch date showing how it would work.