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No it is not my superior knowledge but just reading back on comments including my own when diverts have happened in the past. As already stated it is rare for any Southend flight to be delayed let alone past 2am so hopefully this is something that won't be an issue for many months to come.
Yes my comment about the terminal closing during the day was tongue in cheek but when you have an arrivals board that looks like this today with the last depature at 3pm the terminal could close at 7pm and I think on Wednesdays there are even less flights.
I just find that board painful to look at. We all had such high hopes a couple of years ago so it was never meant to be this way.
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Yes my comment about the terminal closing during the day was tongue in cheek but when you have an arrivals board that looks like this today with the last depature at 3pm the terminal could close at 7pm and I think on Wednesdays there are even less flights.
I just find that board painful to look at. We all had such high hopes a couple of years ago so it was never meant to be this way.
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So today's offering is one less than yesterday. I find it hard to believe that there is no demand and that today Southend will handle maybe 500 passengers in total throughout the day when it has a first rate terminal and a station that is in spitting distance of it when an airport like Luton doesn't even have a station and together with Stansted is rated as the worst in the UK.
Stansted shares its London rail terminus with Southend yet all but the odd few passengers head north for Stansted rather than east to the airport of the year. Looking at the boards for Stansted they are handling more passengers in the first 30 minutes than Southend handles in 3 or 4 days. As for Easyjet, they have just one flight all day.
So with a board looking like this I wonder what Southend's income and loses will be today. Makes me wonder if the airport would be financially better off closing its terminal in the winter.
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Stansted shares its London rail terminus with Southend yet all but the odd few passengers head north for Stansted rather than east to the airport of the year. Looking at the boards for Stansted they are handling more passengers in the first 30 minutes than Southend handles in 3 or 4 days. As for Easyjet, they have just one flight all day.
So with a board looking like this I wonder what Southend's income and loses will be today. Makes me wonder if the airport would be financially better off closing its terminal in the winter.
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Oh and I remember the headlines from when this was published http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/1101...ing_in_Europe/ I wonder what the Operations Director would be saying today
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To those so gloomy about the departures board it is probably worth remembering that even in the 'heady' days of the first winter (12/13) after the WAT flights ceased Tue/Wed had just as few flights. The 3/4 x BE effectively replaces the 3x EI to DUB. The loss of BFS (which was once daily back then midweek) is offset by the TFS on Tue, which probably carries as many pax as both BFS flights combined.
Even at LTN and STN there was a dramatic scale back of flights on those days by EZY.
Even at LTN and STN there was a dramatic scale back of flights on those days by EZY.
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Unfortunately, for passengers who do catch the last train from London, there is nowhere to wait whilst the terminal is closed. Despite the nearby McDonald's being H24, that is the drive through only as the seated restaurant itself is closed and locked.
With regards to cat 6 cover with RFF, it is only between certain hours according to the Southend AIP. Anything outside of that is by prior notice.
The same goes for late flights... Ops, Passenger Handling and the Ramp have all got to have staff who agree to stay on. If they don't, then STN it is.
With regards to cat 6 cover with RFF, it is only between certain hours according to the Southend AIP. Anything outside of that is by prior notice.
The same goes for late flights... Ops, Passenger Handling and the Ramp have all got to have staff who agree to stay on. If they don't, then STN it is.
what's happened ?
i thought flying from SEN was the new 'black'
what's happened for the slump in pax and routes?
my sister and many friends in Chelmsford loves SEN but now the choice is very limited where to go
reason?
what's happened for the slump in pax and routes?
my sister and many friends in Chelmsford loves SEN but now the choice is very limited where to go
reason?
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They probably close the terminal overnight for a few hours to keep Southend's tramps and homeless from dossing in the warm rather than any commercial reason.
It must be a strange experience arriving at a London Airport and finding the front doors locked while the cleaners go about their business.
Many passengers like to arrive late at night for early morning departures which can make terminals look somewhat untidy with people kipping on the floor in sleeping bags but airports seem to put up with it.
It must be a strange experience arriving at a London Airport and finding the front doors locked while the cleaners go about their business.
Many passengers like to arrive late at night for early morning departures which can make terminals look somewhat untidy with people kipping on the floor in sleeping bags but airports seem to put up with it.
I find it hard to believe that there is no demand and that today Southend will handle maybe 500 passengers in total throughout the day when it has a first rate terminal and a station that is in spitting distance of it when an airport like Luton doesn't even have a station and together with Stansted is rated as the worst in the UK........ Stansted shares its London rail terminus with Southend yet all but the odd few passengers head north for Stansted rather than east to the airport of the year.
I don’t doubt that Southend is a great airport to use, but the reality is that Stansted and Luton are light years ahead in terms of establishing themselves as important airports.
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Press release by Skyworks this morning, Southend operation with finish on the 28th December, to concentrate ops on LCY 3 rotations a day, Dornier will replace the current Saab 2000
https://flyskywork.com/en/company/pr...winter_saab_en
https://flyskywork.com/en/company/pr...winter_saab_en
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Hardly surprising...
In other news, it looks doubtful that Adria will return next year as the airline announces plans to 'consolidate its operations in 2016'. However in 2017 it will look to grow 'significantly', so maybe they will operate an MBX base in 2017?
In other news, it looks doubtful that Adria will return next year as the airline announces plans to 'consolidate its operations in 2016'. However in 2017 it will look to grow 'significantly', so maybe they will operate an MBX base in 2017?
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Press release by Skyworks this morning, Southend operation with finish on the 28th December, to concentrate ops on LCY 3 rotations a day, Dornier will replace the current Saab 2000
https://flyskywork.com/en/company/pr...winter_saab_en
https://flyskywork.com/en/company/pr...winter_saab_en
To those so gloomy about the departures board it is probably worth remembering that even in the 'heady' days of the first winter (12/13)
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It's just starting to look like next summer could be even worse than this summer. Can we have some good news please! How about a few extra routes!
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If the service ever gets off the ground. I think the word ´few´is the appropriate word here. Sorry to be so pessimistic but I think the words deckchairs and Titanic spring to mind.
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On a slightly related note, now that BE have cancelled the 3x daily IOM-STN as operated by RE, do you think there's a chance that maybe with a bit of reshuffling that the ATR 72-500s (say, if EI-REH transferred over to IOM) could return to EIR and potentially resume SEN-DUB? It has has been discussed so many times before, but it's still worth mentioning that the DUB route disappeared under suspicious circumstances, and was one of the better routes the airport had seen in terms of load factor?
Also, does anyone know how the routes to Northern France and Benelux are doing on the ATR 42? I saw a video of EI-EHH pulling up to the stand at SEN with only about 15-20 getting off, doesn't look good.
Also, does anyone know how the routes to Northern France and Benelux are doing on the ATR 42? I saw a video of EI-EHH pulling up to the stand at SEN with only about 15-20 getting off, doesn't look good.
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when an airport like Luton doesn't even have a station and together with Stansted is rated as the worst in the UK.
it looks doubtful that Adria will return next year as the airline announces plans to 'consolidate its operations in 2016'
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SEN-BRN to end on December 28 - the reason officially given is quite interesting:
https://www.flyskywork.com/en/compan...winter_saab_en
https://www.flyskywork.com/en/compan...winter_saab_en