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Cannot see this partnership lasting, at the very least what reputation Flybe has is being eroded quickly by these delays/cancellations just by having their name on the booking engine and planes. Suggest Stobart need to sort themselves out asap
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As the 195 is flybe and being operated by flybe I think the negativity towards Stobart is a little premature. Until Stobart take the aircraft over its flybe that need to sort themselves out.
Having said that, delays happen, with respect it's only really the spotting commuting that get agitated by it. The majority of passengers accept these things and as I've said before, stobart are doing all they can to sort out the problems.
Having said that, delays happen, with respect it's only really the spotting commuting that get agitated by it. The majority of passengers accept these things and as I've said before, stobart are doing all they can to sort out the problems.
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Only the "spotting community" get agitated by delays?? A strange comment indeed. Of course the business traveller and the more educated and aware - like cumbrianboy - just laugh it off and say Dash it - what a shame. Good grief!! We will be three hours late. Agitated - moi?? Not at all!!!
On another topic - what a pity to see an ad in the Southend Echo newspaper today for a European River Cruise holiday including return flights to Cologne - to / from London Heathrow!!
On another topic - what a pity to see an ad in the Southend Echo newspaper today for a European River Cruise holiday including return flights to Cologne - to / from London Heathrow!!
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I shall clarify, only the spotting community think that a few delays will lead to disaster. FlyBe have plenty of their own tech delays as do every other airline. There isn't an operation out there that doesn't have it's share of hideous delays.
My point is, it's only on here that I read comments like 'this partnership won't last long unless Stobart Pull their finger out'
Comments like that are firstly misguided (as I pointed out, the writer doesn't know the nature of the operation) but also its pure melodrama.
Yes it was a shame there were delays. The passengers were, without question frustrated and some will likely complain, but the reality is these things can happen and it won't be something that brings about a major downfall just because a flight got delayed or cancelled.
I think the Jota aircraft seems to have a few tech issues, but old aircraft often do, but generally speaking my sense is Stobart have good reliability and punctuality
My point is, it's only on here that I read comments like 'this partnership won't last long unless Stobart Pull their finger out'
Comments like that are firstly misguided (as I pointed out, the writer doesn't know the nature of the operation) but also its pure melodrama.
Yes it was a shame there were delays. The passengers were, without question frustrated and some will likely complain, but the reality is these things can happen and it won't be something that brings about a major downfall just because a flight got delayed or cancelled.
I think the Jota aircraft seems to have a few tech issues, but old aircraft often do, but generally speaking my sense is Stobart have good reliability and punctuality
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Longish article on SEN in the new issue of "Airports of the world". CEO going on the record that he would be disappointed if he was unable to announce two new airlines before the end of 2017.
In a prolonged bout of grandeur he was also musing about SEN overtaking LCY as London's fifth largest airport and serving 10m passengers annually.
In a prolonged bout of grandeur he was also musing about SEN overtaking LCY as London's fifth largest airport and serving 10m passengers annually.
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Could see Stobart adopting acquire and fix strategy then quickly move to expand and growth posture.
One to watch.
Could I very gently suggest that discussion of Stobart possibly acquiring Flybe should either take place on the Flybe thread, or a Stobart Air thread should be created ? That way the Southend thread could remain about Southend rather than deviating into being about particularly airlines...
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Longish article on SEN in the new issue of "Airports of the world". CEO going on the record that he would be disappointed if he was unable to announce two new airlines before the end of 2017.
In a prolonged bout of grandeur he was also musing about SEN overtaking LCY as London's fifth largest airport and serving 10m passengers annually.
In a prolonged bout of grandeur he was also musing about SEN overtaking LCY as London's fifth largest airport and serving 10m passengers annually.
But he knows, as he has made quite clear in the past, that 5 million pax is it for SEN. As for two new operators (I ask again how long is it since the last?) Well, perhaps he believes that Powdair and SkyWork will go toe to toe in December.
It's 250 - 300 metres from the Harp House roundabout (on the main Southend to Rochford road), to the terminal entrance and short term car park / drop off point. That's - what - 150 cars bumper to bumper? So anyone who thinks that the surrounding infrastructure can cope with the traffic associated with 10 million pax is living in cloud cuckoo corner land. Locals will get my little joke.
For sure, things are moving in the right direction at SEN, but a lot of hard graft lies ahead just to achieve the previously lauded magic number of 2.5 million pax.
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There has been some speculation on this thread, some time ago now, that there could be an ANNOUNCEMENT in October regarding Wizz Air. An announcement, not the immediate start of a new service. Let's see if anything comes of this.
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In fact the airport have today officially announced Powdair's arrival on social media.
As for Wizz, I read an article where Chief Operating Officer Owain Jones was talking about the new LTN base, saying: "the speed of its network growth meant the opportunity to gain some additional capacity in the restricted London market was too good to refuse and will also lead to further operational efficiencies."
“We thought we should take advantage of the new overnight stand, and also the opportunity to simplify some of our operations in and out of London.”
Sounds broadly in line with what Glyn Jones has talked about when promoting SEN, so I wouldn't be surprised if Wizz were interested. They seem keen to expand their London flights.
As for Wizz, I read an article where Chief Operating Officer Owain Jones was talking about the new LTN base, saying: "the speed of its network growth meant the opportunity to gain some additional capacity in the restricted London market was too good to refuse and will also lead to further operational efficiencies."
“We thought we should take advantage of the new overnight stand, and also the opportunity to simplify some of our operations in and out of London.”
Sounds broadly in line with what Glyn Jones has talked about when promoting SEN, so I wouldn't be surprised if Wizz were interested. They seem keen to expand their London flights.
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