SOUTHEND 5

[AirportPlanner1]

One for Southside Bobby primarily, who flies STN to Bangkok or Dubai? It's just they're listed on the STN destinations page.

[Spanish eyes]

Originally Posted by Expressflight

compton3bravo

I believe one aircraft went tech in IBZ last night so another SEN-based aircraft was sent down to bring the pax back this morning. Therefore two flights cx this morning as one aircraft tech in IBZ and another allocated to the 'rescue' flight. That's very tough on the would-be AGP and MJV pax this morning.

If only it was two! The cancelled list has just got longer with the afternoon being affected

[compton3bravo]

Thank you . These things happen as we all know but no consolation for those affected but please don't tell the DM!

[southside bobby]

AirportPlanner1....Yes..& probably with our Turkish friends & has been the case for some time I believe..& no doubtful of the take up...which adds to my opinion & yes all airports do it.....My comments re SEN were primarily in response to postings on this thread wondering of the benefits & value of many of the "extras" appearing as connections via MAN...with my observation that AT THIS LATEST STAGE of SEN`s development it would be "advantageous" for the airport operator(perhaps not the pax) to have these connections( useful or not)listed..A methodology somewhat confirmed by EXF in his response..SS

[southside bobby]

SWBKCB...I have been quite clear.....Also we understand how booking engines function & that is the point so would the SEN airport operator!!...See EXF`s response to me confirming SEN`s methodology...Lets also be clear I have never used the word "deceive".. that could be construed as unlawful for acting companies....SS

[SWBKCB]

& perhaps allowing Stobart to further "snow" the investor institutions

So what did you mean by this?

[southside bobby]

SWBKCB.....Come on you know perfectly well what is meant.

[Expressflight]

On the general subject of Flybe's 'Connections Timetable', and not just as it benefits SEN or not, it would be interesting to know how much take up there is for those flights. Flybe have had such timetables for some time I believe so they must know how useful it is in terms of additional revenue.

Regarding the SEN connections I suppose ABZ, BHD, EDI and BHD might be the most attractive ones out of the 17 connection destinations currently available. I do agree with previous posters who have suggested that SEN-MAN-SOU-AMS or SEN-MAN-CDG-GVA and some others are rather silly but I suppose the algorithms chose whichever are technically possible. Perhaps it needs human intervention to weed out some of them.

[Andy_S]

Originally Posted by 01475

I don't see the value in putting ridiculous connections on the website.....

Indeed. The financial risk may be zero, but they leave themselves open to ridicule.

As for taking over FlyBe, be very careful what you wish for......

[LTNman]

3 easyjet and 1 Flybe cancelled today in each direction. What happened to the Flybe?

[virginblue]

Originally Posted by Expressflight

On the general subject of Flybe's 'Connections Timetable', and not just as it benefits SEN or not, it would be interesting to know how much take up there is for those flights. Flybe have had such timetables for some time I believe so they must know how useful it is in terms of additional revenue.

Regarding the SEN connections I suppose ABZ, BHD, EDI and BHD might be the most attractive ones out of the 17 connection destinations currently available. I do agree with previous posters who have suggested that SEN-MAN-SOU-AMS or SEN-MAN-CDG-GVA and some others are rather silly but I suppose the algorithms chose whichever are technically possible. Perhaps it needs human intervention to weed out some of them.

Not sure what all the fuzz is about. Booking engines, those by OTAs and those by airlines, have been offering bizarre 2 or 3 stop connections like forever. Some of them are useful, others are not. And sometimes people book such itineraries for strange reasons, e.g. to collect segments or miles to requalify in a FFP, because they simply love flying and prefer a 7hour multi-segment flight to a 7 hour train ride. And sometimes those multi-segment connections can actually be cheaper than more direct flights as time is money for most and nonstops are priced differently than connections.

[SEN Observer]

They're banging their publicity drum again!!

Airport hopes to welcome 2.5m passengers in 2018 (From Echo)

[EastMids]

Longish article on SEN in the new issue of "Airports of the world". CEO going on the record that he would be disappointed if he was unable to announce two new airlines before the end of 2017. In a prolonged bout of grandeur he was also musing about SEN overtaking LCY as London's fifth largest airport and serving 10m passengers annually.

I think it was fairly clear what he said... 5m possible through the current terminal site, but the with work being done on the airfield infrastructure and space to add more terminal capacity around the corner of the apron, 10m is feasible.

The fundamental point about London City - and Southend maybe one day overtaking it - is that even with the extensions that are planned as part of the CADP LCY will only get to 6.5m and there is little prospect of any further capacity increases beyond that. So why should SEN not overtake it eventually - not this year, not in this decade, but beyond that... At least SEN has more wriggle room that LCY. And Glyn Jones believes that eventually it will overtake LCY.

As far as road access is concerned it's not quite as you suggest and access from the A127 turn off (25 minutes from the M25) is just a couple of minutes along one road. Local access can vary according to the time of day obviously but SEN is on the northern edge of SEN so no one has to drive through the town to get to it.

Extension of the road that passes the end of 06 across the field up to Rochford Road one means of potentially easing access from the west, although maybe not a complete answer to 10m. And if the rail service can be improved - particularly with respect to early and late trains - then that will help. Its only 50 minutes from Liverpool Street - hardly any different to Stansted and shorter than to LGW and even LHR until Crossrail is done.

They're banging their publicity drum again!!

The point Glyn Jones has made is that the other airports are pretty full and/or much more expensive for airlines. SEN has capacity all day, some even at peak. If it does 1.2m this year and they get two more good airlines (or more) over the next few months, why not 2.5m in 2018?

[DC3 Dave]

This is one of many Glyn Jones interviews in which he states that the maximum terminal capacity is 5 million.

Ambitious expansion plans from airport boss (From Braintree and Witham Times)

[virginblue]

Originally Posted by EastMids

I think it was fairly clear what he said... 5m possible through the current terminal site, but the with work being done on the airfield infrastructure and space to add more terminal capacity around the corner of the apron, 10m is feasible.

Sure. I did not dispute that the airport could eventually accommodate 10m (with relocation of some of the infrastructure). I was, however, slightly bemused that the CEO of an airport with five based aircraft for scheduled services with an overall capacity of 650 seats (and, IIRC a weekly scheduled flight by a non-based airline) daydreams about 10m passengers. And we should not forget that this rather modest offering has taken five years to achieve and the airport has only been able to attract a single airline as a substantial customer. All the rest has either disappeared quicker than imagined or is from an in-house airline (which opens and cuts new routes at a rate that does not make it appear a lasting success).

Don't misunderstand me. I like the airport, I have used and will continue to use it if something is on offer that suits me (although MST, FMO and CGN were all cut before I could use them...).

[01475]

What two more "good" airlines can they get? Really they already have the only two that will operate a *network* out SEN and carry a large number of passengers; so the realistic hopes are that those might grow.

The rest of any increase will most likely need to come from airlines (perhaps those similar in Nature to Adria) adding individual routes. We can all create a long list of airlines that *could*, and as time goes by maybe some of them might!

[DC3 Dave]

Many of you have been calling for this route for some time.

Enjoy year-round sun with new Malta flights from Southend Airport (From Echo)

[tws123]

Malta is 2x weekly and year round with easyJet from 29th October 2017.

[Expressflight]

So an A320 will be SEN-based next summer for the first time.

[SEN Observer]

The 4th based easy aircraft?