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Old 30th May 2016, 14:40
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Anyone know the final footfall?? I suppose that... More than the Twitter platitudes will determine whether or not the show will go on!
As air shows go..it was..lets be honest pretty poor..not a lot in the air and not a lot of interest.However it's Joe Public who need to be impressed...not the super spotters!!

The real focus is the airport..yes it raised profile,but has it raised awareness that you can actually fly somewhere useful from your doorstep??
Time will tell but next few months are vital to the airport.
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Old 30th May 2016, 14:59
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18,000 people attend Skylive Airshow at Durham Tees Valley Airport (From The Northern Echo)

18,000 (sell out?) according to the Echo.

next few months are vital to the airport.
Any reason why the next few months are particularly significant?
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Reason?? Because in this day and age it's an on going project...DTV. Will not survive on an air show once a year with 18000 families..they need services,schedules,investment,hope and a positive plan ,to be honest And please correct me guys,I,m not sure what that is?

An Airshow raises local profile...but do the guys in KLM,BA,TUI,JET 2 etc,etc. Really take any notice of that?

Not negative....just realistic.
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Old 30th May 2016, 15:50
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Other than creating a buzz/feelgood factor I don't expect the success (or otherwise) of the air show to have any impact on the future of the airport - the plan is still the Masterplan
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Highwideandugly, you're in a small minority with your "poor show" opinion, my estimates are its getting one negative review in every five across social media, let's call it one in three to be safe. It's a rolling five year plan with the intention that each year will be bigger and better than the last, they've quite rightly crawled before they walked and the public appear to have loved it.

One thing I am curious about is traffic, I've heard people saying it was a doddle to get in and I've heard people saying a 90 minute queue with traffic back as far as Morton Park? Either way I would have thought this is largely beyond Skylive's control?
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Old 31st May 2016, 15:55
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Teesside's airport is 'a key asset' to the region, says Lord Heseltine - Gazette Live
In September, Peel Holdings warned the airport could shut unless it was released from its liabilities to the Teesside Pension Fund - Teesside’s local government pension scheme. As reported, if the airport were to shut the four Tees councils would be left to meet its liabilities to the Pension Fund - an estimated £6.5m. It was agreed by the leaders and mayor of the shareholding local authorities to recommend acceptance of Peel’s proposal, in principle, to their councils.

But in a document seen by The Gazette the council’s sought “a minimum period of ten years operating capability being maintained” by Peel for the airport. It is understood that in a new report Peel has pledged to run the airport for an “unconditional period of five years”. But the airport’s financial position would be reviewed before Peel would commit to operating DTVA for any period beyond that, the report says.
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Five years..or maybe 4 and counting? Peel will never invest the amounts needed to get the airport back on its feet.
No matter how optimistic the majority on this thread are..the future is there for all to see..as some forecast.

Not sure where to go from here..the housing was supposed to provide cash for investment..tell me where are we with that development?
Where are we with ANY meaningful development?
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Old 31st May 2016, 19:37
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Oh yawn yawn! The future was in doubt before Peel, still in doubt 5 year ago, still in doubt now, and still will be in 5, 10, 50 years from now. I'll continue to form my opinion based on the hard facts that come my way and not half a story the local rags choose to print to sell more copies
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Old 31st May 2016, 20:24
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A bit unfair on the Gazette - the story title is actually positive ("key asset"), with the negative aspect being in the body of the story.

HWU has a point - little sign of any movement on the housing (no planning permission yet?), which was meant to found the rest of the development. Meanwhile there seems to have been plenty of other housing developments approved in the surrounding area.
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Not sure where to go from here..the housing was supposed to provide cash for investment..tell me where are we with that development?
Where are we with ANY meaningful development?
Homes plan submitted for land at Durham Tees Valley Airport (From The Northern Echo)

Answer your question?

Very positive stuff.
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At last

Bit early in the day for you to post CO,you must be excited!!

At last some positive news regarding development and investment.

Make a note of the date,how long will it take our glorious councils to reach agreement on the planning issues??
Guaranteeing continuity of business for 5 possibly 10 years,not sure what that statement actually tells us?
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Old 6th Jun 2016, 18:26
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How many people actually want to buy a house near a busy airport? Cue no change in the airport volume or closure completely.

Is it not time we face facts, the airport no longer has a catchment significant enough to provide a commercial base. It is better off as a skydive/instruction/training/ private facility.

I know I've stuck my head above the parapet, but I find it unlikely anything will change.
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Old 6th Jun 2016, 19:59
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I would imagine that constant skydive/instruction/training/private activity will be more irritating for house owners than any level of airline activity that MME has seen. I think the size of car park gives an indication of the passenger ambitions.

Was that local services centre there in the Masterplan diagrams - thought that was all going in the terminal building?
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Old 6th Jun 2016, 20:09
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Think the show room has changed place with local services.
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 07:30
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
I would imagine that constant skydive/instruction/training/private activity will be more irritating for house owners than any level of airline activity that MME has seen. I think the size of car park gives an indication of the passenger ambitions.

Was that local services centre there in the Masterplan diagrams - thought that was all going in the terminal building?
A buzzing vs two Rolls Royce Trent shaking the roof? Having lived under an RAF flight area I will take the gentle buzzing of a Cessna thanks.

I share your hopefulness, however, do you not think that there would have been a take off for this airport had it been worthy. How many people want to/can fly from Teesside?

Face facts, I went to Amsterdam last week from Manchester, why? Because it was £250 each from DTV or £100 each from MCN.

Does TNT even land cargo into DTV?
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 15:34
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A constant buzzing vs
occasionally
two Rolls Royce Trents? The frequency of the disturbance is just as important as the volume, particularly as the buzzing is going to increase just when you want to be outside/have your windows open.
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 21:28
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Bit of Teesside history from the local rag!

Muhammad Ali once made this (brief) appearance on Teesside soil - Gazette Live
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
A constant buzzing vs two Rolls Royce Trents? The frequency of the disturbance is just as important as the volume, particularly as the buzzing is going to increase just when you want to be outside/have your windows open.
So basically you are agreeing that there will be no increase in aircraft frequency.
Kinda supports my comments...
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Old 10th Jun 2016, 22:53
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Originally Posted by MMCMME
Absolutely fantastic day. Better than anticipated.
Next years should be a corker now the guys know what to expect and what to improve on.
Quite surprised no one has posted this yet , 2017 Skylive Airshow date confirmed as Saturday 27 May ;


Date revealed for next year's Skylive airshow at Durham Tees Valley Airport (From The Northern Echo)
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Skylive airshow 2017 date announced after thousands attend this year's show - Gazette Live
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Old 17th Jun 2016, 12:10
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For a development company they've proved pretty incompetent at actually developing anything over the years - the link road is now on hold!
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