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Having had the misfortune to park at the ‘Parkway’, what an awful place! We then took a 30 year old train into London. The problem I have is that for the last 7 years I have used Southwest Trains brand new fleet of quiet air conditioned trains. It was like taking a nostalgic ride into past times! The Tinimal in comparison is frankly functional and that is all it ever needs to be!
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Less than two years to wait for the new fleet of trains from Parkway New spacious Thameslink trains unveiled at international trade show - Thameslink Programme
I think it is from 13 December 2015 next year that the overnight train service goes half hourly which will promote more early morning passengers to arrive by train.
I think it is from 13 December 2015 next year that the overnight train service goes half hourly which will promote more early morning passengers to arrive by train.
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Periods of reduced flight activity!
"As LTNman says how will they cope
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Quite easily by using the available slots during 'current' non peak periods!
Luton currently has three peak periods but in turn has approximately 7 hours each day of periods in which flight movements could be quadrupled!
"Quite easily by using the available slots during 'current' non peak periods!
Luton currently has three peak periods but in turn has approximately 7 hours each day of periods in which flight movements could be quadrupled!
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But with it being reported here that most of the growth will come from 3 extra based aircraft they won't be using that off peak demand.
I can remember the major growth spurt Luton put on as the new terminal was being built. The old terminal was meant to have a capacity of 3 million passengers while the new terminal was meant to have a capacity of 5 million passengers. I think that this 5 million claimed capacity was to smooth its passage through the planning stage is it was passed as soon as the new terminal opened.
Luton is looking at maybe 12 million passengers for next year keeping it as AENA's 5th busiest airport ahead of airports like Gran Canaria and Alicante.
AENA has reported the total revenue for Luton was Ł122.3 million for 2013.
I can remember the major growth spurt Luton put on as the new terminal was being built. The old terminal was meant to have a capacity of 3 million passengers while the new terminal was meant to have a capacity of 5 million passengers. I think that this 5 million claimed capacity was to smooth its passage through the planning stage is it was passed as soon as the new terminal opened.
Luton is looking at maybe 12 million passengers for next year keeping it as AENA's 5th busiest airport ahead of airports like Gran Canaria and Alicante.
AENA has reported the total revenue for Luton was Ł122.3 million for 2013.
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Trying to decide whether Monarch will retain the 5 based next year or whether it will go back to 4 as a result of their cutbacks.
Using the first week in June (Mon 1st to Sun 7th), it appears that 5 aircraft are required for the first wave on Monday, 3 on Tuesday, and 4 for the remaining days. That assumes no charter flights, and that the website has been loaded with all routes.
Missing are Munich (winter only), Antalya, Bodrum and Corfu. Are these latter destinations likely to be served, or will Monarch add new routes (unlikely in my opinion)?
Using the first week in June (Mon 1st to Sun 7th), it appears that 5 aircraft are required for the first wave on Monday, 3 on Tuesday, and 4 for the remaining days. That assumes no charter flights, and that the website has been loaded with all routes.
Missing are Munich (winter only), Antalya, Bodrum and Corfu. Are these latter destinations likely to be served, or will Monarch add new routes (unlikely in my opinion)?
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It's already been mentioned on this thread that Zante is being added twice weekly as a scheduled service to replace the previous weekly charter. Rome is also increasing, going up to 6 per week. Whether that's enough to see a based fleet of 5 aircraft for next summer, we'll see
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Thought the below post by "anna_list" in the Wizzair Forum might be of interest to the Luton Forum:
Then "easydan319" posted:
Looks like two more potential routes to be announced imminently!
The link above makes interesting reading about Luton in general for this winter...
Hello,
Without needing a based aircraft for most of the time, the ACL winter season report http://www.acl-uk.org/UserFiles/File...n%20Report.pdf shows that Wizzair have slots to increase their movements at Luton by a massive 34% compared to last year, with over 30 departures per day.
This gives them 35-36% of Luton's allocated movements and available seats this winter (compared to 44-45% for Easyjet and a mere 10% for Ryanair).
Incidentally, there are slots for Tuzla - Luton, but no flights have been announced (yet).
The way that the Wizzair operation has grown at Luton is very impressive, as that photo suggests.
Without needing a based aircraft for most of the time, the ACL winter season report http://www.acl-uk.org/UserFiles/File...n%20Report.pdf shows that Wizzair have slots to increase their movements at Luton by a massive 34% compared to last year, with over 30 departures per day.
This gives them 35-36% of Luton's allocated movements and available seats this winter (compared to 44-45% for Easyjet and a mere 10% for Ryanair).
Incidentally, there are slots for Tuzla - Luton, but no flights have been announced (yet).
The way that the Wizzair operation has grown at Luton is very impressive, as that photo suggests.
Wizz also showing slots for Podgorica!
The link above makes interesting reading about Luton in general for this winter...
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Ironic that the sandwich workers will probably come from Hungary !
How many unemployed in the UK ? Despite this, immigrants are "required" from overseas to fill vacancies let alone sandwiches.
How many unemployed in the UK ? Despite this, immigrants are "required" from overseas to fill vacancies let alone sandwiches.
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Better then it being a gateway to bury park for religious fundies. The more eastern europeans that stay in the town the better as far as I am concerned.
As was mentioned before I dont think FR genuinely see themselves using Luton to far into the future. It will be a very Airbus Orange & Violet dominated strip.
The 787 was indeed a beauty
As was mentioned before I dont think FR genuinely see themselves using Luton to far into the future. It will be a very Airbus Orange & Violet dominated strip.
The 787 was indeed a beauty
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Think it is unlikely that the routes to TGD Podgorica and TZL Tuzla will operate this winter.
Firstly the first based plane in Tuzla is not due until April next year as per their news release, and secondly Wizz rarely launch new routes at short notice.Most have at least a four month advance run in.
Would love to be proved wrong though !!
G-TUID in for maintenance and a long list of modifications I understand.
Firstly the first based plane in Tuzla is not due until April next year as per their news release, and secondly Wizz rarely launch new routes at short notice.Most have at least a four month advance run in.
Would love to be proved wrong though !!
G-TUID in for maintenance and a long list of modifications I understand.
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I'm pretty sure that RYR's quiet winter is not a reflection of it's future plans at LTN. Have a look at their schedule at all of their bases and you'll see a similar pattern. Join the dots, folks, and read the "terms and conditions" RYR threads to see why this might be happening.
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I see Flybe are launching IOM from STN. I guess that puts paid to the route returning to LTN anytime soon, I can't imagine there'd be demand for another operator to come in and use LTN.
I am surprised that no one has tried to have another go at JER or GCI even, at least during the summer season
I am surprised that no one has tried to have another go at JER or GCI even, at least during the summer season
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Atlasjet S15 now loaded for IST
No direct Antalya flights (still via IST) as suggested!
No direct Antalya flights (still via IST) as suggested!
If they were ever planning to launch such a service, I would imagine now easyJet are launching next summer, they will be reluctant to go up against them...
Going up against Monarch (who flew the route this summer) is one thing, but easyJet is another thing! AtlasJet I notice give Pegasus a wide birth too, who are very much the Ryanair on Turkey!
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@walp,
Not many people realize, this but back in the early 1970's Luton was the most profitable UK airport. It stood by reasonable costs and did not (as MAG once stated) prostitute itself to airlines wanting to increase their profit margins at the expense of profits for the airport and its development of growth.
I personally think it is sad that Luton no longer has an IOM service but if MAG are offering airlines sweeteners (which is fair enough) then at the end of the day it will reflect (I assume) on profits. At the end of the day airports need to make profits to invest in infrastructure.
What we all know is that Luton has the potential to attract customers not only for the Isle of Man but in turn passengers wishing to travel to Ireland.
I honestly believe a new airline operation from Luton could be started to win back lost traffic.
On a good note Luton Airport will most likely exceed 11 million passengers by end of December 2015.
Not many people realize, this but back in the early 1970's Luton was the most profitable UK airport. It stood by reasonable costs and did not (as MAG once stated) prostitute itself to airlines wanting to increase their profit margins at the expense of profits for the airport and its development of growth.
I personally think it is sad that Luton no longer has an IOM service but if MAG are offering airlines sweeteners (which is fair enough) then at the end of the day it will reflect (I assume) on profits. At the end of the day airports need to make profits to invest in infrastructure.
What we all know is that Luton has the potential to attract customers not only for the Isle of Man but in turn passengers wishing to travel to Ireland.
I honestly believe a new airline operation from Luton could be started to win back lost traffic.
On a good note Luton Airport will most likely exceed 11 million passengers by end of December 2015.
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Lee Baker Street whilst I don't disagree with what you say, as I'd also love to see IOM and other routes return, the risks allied to a new airline setting up operations at Luton must surely make that highly unlikely?
What would be great is if a regional airline like BMI Regional as an example, saw an opportunity to develop a small network from Luton but I can't really see that happening either, not with them or any other airline.
We can be happy that passenger numbers generally continue to grow & there's no sign of a slowdown.
Whilst I don't see IOM or regional Irish routes returning, I hope that Jersey might prove more tempting to someone, at least seasonally. We will see
What would be great is if a regional airline like BMI Regional as an example, saw an opportunity to develop a small network from Luton but I can't really see that happening either, not with them or any other airline.
We can be happy that passenger numbers generally continue to grow & there's no sign of a slowdown.
Whilst I don't see IOM or regional Irish routes returning, I hope that Jersey might prove more tempting to someone, at least seasonally. We will see