LUTON -8

[AvGeek1]

Sorry LTNMan but I'm new here so I haven't seen the previous conversations.

However the Napier Park complex looks very good and I agree that it would be a great location. Would they just take one building or maybe Building 100 and 200 together?

[LTNman]

Don't think anything has been set in stone yet regarding the design of buildings, just more of an outline of what could go there. Once upon a time there was a plan to site a multistory car park there for the airport but that was years ago.

[AvGeek1]

Can anyone still tell me what the brown bricked building is on the left side of the terminal. I know part of it is being used for the temporary arrivals hall but what was it used for before this and what will it be used for the in the future?

[LTNman]

You need to plod your way through our sister thread but here is a photo to the building in a previous life.
http://www.pprune.org/8923979-post579.html Posts about the airports history are better off there.

[AvGeek1]

Originally Posted by LTNman

You need to plod your way through our sister thread but here is a photo to the building in a previous life.
http://www.pprune.org/8923979-post579.html Posts about the airports history are better off there.

Thank you for that! So it says that the exterior will disappear due to the terminal extension, but what about the space inside the building? There must have been quite a lot is space in the building considering it is now partly the temporary arrivals hall.

[planedrive]

Looking at the redevelopment plans, it appears most of the building behind the brick facade will be the domestic arrivals baggage belt and the exit into the new terminal infill for arrivals.

On a different note Luton Council have released their Investment framework for 2025 which includes a couple of interesting points related to the airport, specifically the plan for rapid mass transit between the airport and Parkyway station (as previously discussed) to be in place by 2025 as well as phase 1 of Napier Park to be complete which could easily provide office space for easyJet to move off the airport. H89 is definitely becoming to small with several different office arrangements being trialed recently to increase the amount of working areas in the hangar, including some departments now having offices at the academy (around the back of the airport by Landmark Aviation and the cargo terminal). Link is https://www.luton.gov.uk/Business/Li...2035-DRAFT.pdf

[LTNman]

They extended the office space in hangar 89 by removing one of the aircraft bays in the hangar and building mezzanine floors on it but they still had to put more staff in the academy building.

A lot of staff working time at easyjet is lost as they travel between hangar 89 and the academy. They seem to use a combination of staff buses and the car hire and long term car park coaches as there are bus stops close to the academy.

The icing on the cake is the staff bus ride to their off site car park which is close to around a mile away from hangar 89. When the CTA is finished I wonder if easyjet will come to some short term arrangement to use either part of the multistory car park or short term car park until the airport needs all the spaces for passengers?

[AvGeek1]

Does the plan for the dualling of the road leading up to the airport involve keeping the roundabout at the Holiday Inn or making it all dual carriageway. I only ask because I have been at Luton a couple of time when there has been heavy amounts of traffic and this roundabout always becomes gridlocked making the situation worse. Even a junction with traffic lights, like the one down the road, it could help with this problem.

[vintage ATCO]

Easyjet have outgrown easy land and have run out of office space are rumoured to be looking for a new home.

B&Q in Gipsy Lane is closing down next Sunday, it's almost the right colour!

[j636]

Vueling were refused slots for 2 daily LTN-ORY. They were also refused slots for anther few routes along wtih W6/EI and DY requests.

[runway08]

Why on earth would they refuse Norwegian. The future potential could be enormous. Also where the heck do Lingus want to fly to? Bizarre stuff.

[Boeing737-8]

Most probably cause there all would of wanted early morning slots. As LTNMAN says, the airport is far too busy in the morning and needs to expand before letting new airlines and routes start then. The airport could easily be used at any other part of the day for 8:45 onwards in the morning but for most airlines this is too late.

[wallp]

Is there not any slot availability at all before 8.45?

Norwegian would have been a great addition. Hopefully they can work something out. As for Aer Lingus - that's a real surprise. They surely wouldn't try to take on Ryanair directly would they? Perhaps they would.

The sooner Luton gets more early morning slot availability the better

[robbie1973]

Originally Posted by j636

Vueling were refused slots for 2 daily LTN-ORY. They were also refused slots for anther few routes along wtih W6/EI and DY requests.

You seem reliably informed ? Where did you get this information from.

[robbie1973]

Originally Posted by Itchin McCrevis

Checked out this story with someone who would know and I am reliably advised it's all complete tosh (assuming the OP is actually talking about LTN and not ORY).

I didn't believe it for a second but thanks for clarifying !

[airhumberside]

Not sure everyone realises, but the slot requests were for Paris Orly, not Luton. Luton only comes into it as Vueling applied for Orly slots to start an Orly-Luton service. All the Orly slot information is in a press release on the French slot co-ordinator website
ORY 22/01/2016 New slot pool allocation - Cohor

[runway08]

Mhmm you just dont refuse airlines like those, You surely try and find a way to accomodate them in LTN. Who knows whats going on behind the scenes though. With LHR having no room many airlines could be looking for new pastures to expand from.

[robbie1973]

Originally Posted by airhumberside

Not sure everyone realises, but the slot requests were for Paris Orly, not Luton. Luton only comes into it as Vueling applied for Orly slots to start an Orly-Luton service. All the Orly slot information is in a press release on the French slot co-ordinator website
ORY 22/01/2016 New slot pool allocation - Cohor

Now that makes perfect sense unlike the initial statement which will all assumed referred directly to Luton.

[LGS6753]

Connections!

Blue Air are now showing connecting flights from LTN to:

Catania (Via Bucharest)
Athens (Turin)
Ibiza (Turin)
Lamezia Terme (Turin)
Madrid (Turin)
Mahon (Turin)
Palma (Turin)
Rome (Bucharest)

Direct flights (as previously mentioned in this thread) are to Bacau (6pw), Bucharest (10), Iasi (5), Larnaca (4) and Turin (4)

[LTNman]

Read somewhere that runway 08 sets the slots available as it has a lower runway rate than 26. With the extension to the mid term car park complete the taxiway extension now just waits for work to begin. Might well be the case that the CTA is the priority at the moment.

Not that it makes much difference but Luton has lost 2 stands for the redevelopment work which would impact on how many aircraft can night stop.