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Old 20th Feb 2014, 16:59
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The thing is as we are all aware Luton isn't London, Huge enough catchment area that takes in so many random surrounding cities/towns with decent sized populations that are miles away from Heathrow, Stansted & Gatwick.

Luton, Bedford, Milton Keynes, Ayelsbury, Bletchley, Oxford, Stevenage, Northampton etc etc St Albans & Watford are closer to the "London" Airports but still enough pull to compete on routes. In terms of distance isn't comparing Luton and Gatwick (74 miles) along the same lines as comparing Bristol with Bournemouth (77 miles), Not close at all.
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Old 20th Feb 2014, 17:33
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Is there *really* demand for a fourth carrier on London-Athens
Yep. RyanAir are starting STN-Athens I believe in April.
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Old 20th Feb 2014, 17:48
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My bad. pamann is right. Is there room for a fifth carrier on London-Athens then ?
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If FR are having a go from STN then surely that suggests growing market potential for the route?
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Old 20th Feb 2014, 18:28
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You would think so. But probably not with the likes of Monarch or EasyJet from Luton just yet now that Ryanair are going to Athens.
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Jersey.

Heard on Jersey's local radio station today that Easyjet are actively looking at new routes into the island, Luton maybe?
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Old 20th Feb 2014, 20:52
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Jersey

I posted a while ago that I thought easyJet should think about giving JER another go from Luton. They seem the logical choice to take on the route which surely they could make work, say 3 or 4 times a week?

I really hope they are looking at LTN-JER though presumably if they were planning to go there this summer they'd need to announce it very soon?

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Old 21st Feb 2014, 19:21
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At last
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Old 21st Feb 2014, 20:05
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Grrr

They have Carpatair on their website. Am I correct in saying they do not fly this route and the sole 737 has been moved to do other things?

To all the Luton firefighters....I am lost for words
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Old 21st Feb 2014, 21:24
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I think that the problem with EZY operating Luton - Jersey is that it will dilute their new Gatwick - Jersey service.
Gatwick has already had this effect on the Southend - Jersey route; going to 1 per week when Gatwick starts.
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Old 21st Feb 2014, 21:33
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Carpetair

They have Carpatair on their website. Am I correct in saying they do not fly this route and the sole 737 has been moved to do other things?
The route is still on sale and showing to be operated with a 737...

Even if the 737 is busy, they still have three Fooker 100s that could operate the route.

I think the airlines long term viability is questionable, and would caution anyone buying tickets too far in-advance unless you have confidence in the airline. Also a return fare is in-excess of 280 Euros on most days.

To all the Luton firefighters....I am lost for words
Whats that about? Im confused!
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Old 21st Feb 2014, 23:30
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Stalled Aena plan casts doubt over Luton revival - FT.com
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Old 22nd Feb 2014, 04:14
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The story talks about the stalled privatization of Aena, which should have happened late last year, as the Spanish government has yet to make its mind up about about whether it really does want to sell up to a 60% stake. If they don't sell then Luton won't get the money to invest and it is starting to look like the Spanish government won't need to sell assets to raise money as their economy improves.

It might come down to what was written into the contract with the council as the council threatened in the past to cancel the contract due to a lack of investment. Maybe Aena might be forced to sell its stake but it will be more time lost as Luton just bumps along the ground and with the time left of the concession reducing by the day it leaves Luton with an uncertain future.
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Grrr

gilesdavies, I would like to say more, but at this stage I have to stay silent.
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Old 22nd Feb 2014, 21:39
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Joke of an airport, Maybe one day a company with a clue will buy it.. Doubt it though, Been passed from Morons to Morons for as long as I can remember and I think the new lot seem to be just as clueless and apathetic as the last.

At least the execs will always have somewhere to park.
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Old 23rd Feb 2014, 01:46
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Why buy something and not do anything with it!
AENA are hardly a Morons, they are one of the biggest airport operators in the world.
They are probably bogged down with Spanish Government and sorting out contracts they have inherited. It could take them a year to sort internals out then we will see what happens from then on.....
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The FT story mentions that AENA have big plans for Luton and that Luton will be the kingpin of their international expansion but all is on hold at the moment over its own privatization.

Even if the privatization had already gone through nothing can happen until the UK government, who have called in the plans, have made a decision whether a public inquiry is needed. If it is needed then that's another couple of years lost.

The bottom line is that UK and foreign governments hold the key to Luton's future and we can see by what is happening at Heathrow that UK governments don't have the backbone to make big decisions and will sit on the fence for years as they dither.
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Old 23rd Feb 2014, 09:30
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It kind of reminds me of the hatters, Owned by so many nutjobs that ran something with so much potential into the ground. Up until recently anyway..
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Old 23rd Feb 2014, 18:50
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Kcockayne, isnt the reason that easyJet are cutting back their SEN-JER route because, like with the EDI service they're scrapping at SEN, some routes are simply struggling to work there & not because of a risk to LGW operations?

Why should a LTN-JER service dilute the LGW operation? After all, easyJet already operate many routes from both LTN & LGW. I dont see why JER couldn't support operations by easyJet to LGW & LTN.
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Old 23rd Feb 2014, 19:42
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A person travelling between central London and Edinburgh is likely to be somewhat neutral in their choice between Luton and Gatwick, at least compared to someone who lives in Hertfordshire / Sussex.

I used to live in north London - if the price differential was large enough or flight times more suitable, I'd happily trek across London to Gatwick instead of going to Luton / Stansted.

If Easyjet add too much capacity to 1 London airport it'll almost certainly start to cannibalise the equivalent from another London airport. The extent of cannibalisation is a little more difficult to model accurately !
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