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Old 29th Mar 2017, 15:28
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Eurowings announced new Salzburg twice weekly service for winter 2017.
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Old 29th Mar 2017, 16:27
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What's happened to BHX - China?

Reported on EDI thread, China Eastern are to soon announce a new Edinburgh - Shanghai route (in addition to Shanghai - Stockholm and Washington). GLA meanwhile has Korean operating a longer summer season of charter flights to/from Seoul.


What on earth has happened to BHX - China? The China summer charters are dead and buried and Hainan are now rumoured to be going daily at MAN. BHX appears to have well and truly lost the race to get a non-London airport to China flight - I thought this was one of BHX management priorities, particularly given the amount of Chinese business investment in the Midlands? I'm sure they are still 'working' hard on it but EDI appears to have leap-frogged us in the queue!


Given the new DY routes to the US as well, EDI has now surpassed BHX in terms of scheduled long haul routes (unsurprising I guess with its international profile as Scotland's capital city). I know we have Goa, Phuket and La Romana launching this winter with TOM but I do fear for future scheduled long haul growth at BHX: it is becoming clear that it does not have a critical hub mass like MAN or a strong inbound demand (in particular for leisure traffic) like EDI to attract new long haul airlines and routes therefore plays second fiddle to both in this particular respect.
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What on earth has happened to BHX - China? The China summer charters are dead and buried and Hainan are now rumoured to be going daily at MAN. BHX appears to have well and truly lost the race to get a non-London airport to China flight - I thought this was one of BHX management priorities, particularly given the amount of Chinese business investment in the Midlands? I'm sure they are still 'working' hard on it but EDI appears to have leap-frogged us in the queue!
We don't know what's happening, since negotiations will, or at least ought to be private.

EDI as you say is no real surprise, though so far as I'm aware it hasn't been announced by either the airline, or the airport. If ever there was a benefit to devolution it is the raising in profile of Scotland's capital city, probably to the detriment of Glasgow which now finds itself in a similar position as BHX does to London. Golf is a fast growing sport among the moneyed classes in China, and Scotland is a world mecca for the sport, so EDI has a lot going for it.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
We don't know what's happening, since negotiations will, or at least ought to be private.

EDI as you say is no real surprise, though so far as I'm aware it hasn't been announced by either the airline, or the airport. If ever there was a benefit to devolution it is the raising in profile of Scotland's capital city, probably to the detriment of Glasgow which now finds itself in a similar position as BHX does to London. Golf is a fast growing sport among the moneyed classes in China, and Scotland is a world mecca for the sport, so EDI has a lot going for it.
If golf is the attraction then one could argue that GLA has as much going for it as EDI. Besides, the main attraction is still tourism, mainly in the form of coach tours that are popular year round and leave from Glasgow and Edinburgh stopping at locations around Scotland.
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Old 30th Mar 2017, 11:58
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First Jet2.com flight left Birmingham Airport this morning bound for Malaga !!

Good luck to Jet2.com - Lets hope they find BHX a huge success !!
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When you see what they have done at MAN and LBA and to a lesser ammount at other bases
that have shaken the other operators and have always given a good product I can seem them
doing equally well at BHX and STN
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Does EK normally reduce frequency to BHX in the slower May month? (down to twice daily)
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Vickers Vicount,yes the same thing happened last year.
Very often 3 class aircraft being substituted in place of the normal high density aircraft on the remaining flights.
Not something to worry about at the moment,as this also happens at other airports as well.
It would be interesting to know the loadings throughout the past winter.I think in some cases they have been a little disappointing.
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Does EK normally reduce frequency to BHX in the slower May month? (down to twice daily)
You'll find it's due to Ramadan which starts in May and continues until June. Next year it'll probably be April May time when they may cut back. Other destinations are affected as well.
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Jet2 announced today that there would be an increase in the flying programme for 2018 including new destinations.
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Qatar Airways Sees Strong Demand for Birmingham Service One Year on.

Qatar Airways is reporting strong demand from business and leisure travellers and cargo shippers from the Midlands as it celebrates its first anniversary of flights from Birmingham Airport to Doha

Qatar Airways commenced flights from Birmingham to Doha on 30th March 2016, offering a daily non-stop service to Doha where passengers can seamlessly transfer at its state-of-the-art hub, Hamad International Airport, to flights to over 150 destinations in regions including Asia, Australasia, Africa and the Middle East.

The flight is operated by a state-of-the-art 254 seat Boeing 787 Dreamliner – representing a capacity of over 3,500 seats and over 110 tonnes of cargo carrying capacity per week to and from Birmingham.




Morena Bronzetti, Qatar Airways’ Country Manager UK & Ireland, said: “Just a year on from the start of our service from Birmingham, levels of both passenger and cargo demand are strong and exceeding our expectations.

“It’s clear that business and leisure travellers and cargo shippers from the Midlands have recognised the benefits of being able to travel from their local airport to the huge choice of destinations we serve across the globe.”

To celebrate the anniversary, Qatar Airways is offering passengers flying out of Birmingham Airport on Thursday the chance to win prizes including two free flights for their next holiday and a selection of luxury gifts.

The airport is hosting a treasure hunt for passengers booked on the afternoon flight to Doha. Passengers who find special anniversary paper aeroplanes hidden in the airport terminal can claim their prizes before boarding the flight.

David Winstanley, Chief Operating Officer, Birmingham Airport, said: “We are delighted to celebrate this anniversary with Qatar Airways. The airline gives passengers from our region a great product and an extensive route network in the Gulf and beyond.”

In addition to its existing network of over 150 destinations worldwide, Qatar Airways is due to launch a range of new destinations in 2017 and 2018 which broaden the choices available to travellers from the Midlands. These include Auckland, New Zealand, Canberra in Australia, Chiang Mai in Thailand, Yanbu and Tabuk in Saudi Arabia, Medan in Indonesia, and Libreville in Gabon.

On board the Boeing 787, Qatar Airways’ passengers have a choice of 22 seats in Business Class and 232 Economy Class seats. All seats include individual television screens, with Economy Class customers benefitting from a screen 10.6-inches wide, offering the latest inflight entertainment with up to 2,000 options while experiencing the airline’s award-winning service.

Every seat is an aisle seat in Business Class where passengers can catch up on sleep in a fully-flat bed or make productive use of their time utilising the large work surface area. Passengers can also stay connected while travelling with the option of Wi-Fi which is available throughout the aircraft.

https://www.birminghamairport.co.uk...ng-demand-for-birmingham-service-one-year-on/
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Old 31st Mar 2017, 23:23
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Birmingham has just extended the notam regarding the unservicability of the glidepath signal on 33 to the end of June.It cannot be that hard to repair can it?

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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
Jet2 announced today that there would be an increase in the flying programme for 2018 including new destinations.
Only one I know of is CFU. Nothing official however from a reliable source
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Is anybody keeping a log of the Jet2 737s now based at the airport? The airline promised brand new aicraft would be based at BHX but I thought that I saw an old B738 last week.
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Is anybody keeping a log of the Jet2 737s now based at the airport? The airline promised brand new aicraft would be based at BHX but I thought that I saw an old B738 last week.
All 737-8MG aircraft at the moment. There have been a few ad-hoc charters recently which could account for other aircraft. Unlikely to have older model -800s based there due to some spares differences.
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Just to confirm what Flying Wild stated there was a one-off charter to Venice and this was definitely an older aircraft but the rest have been new.

33 ILS - Nothing heard other than silence

Eurowings

Hamburg Ends 11 June per most booking engines and e-mails have gone out for later dates that the routing is via Dusseldorf. Can't say that this was a surprise. Possibly one for flybe to revisit but I would say that Ryanair would be a good fit

Monarch

After yesterdays press release, GIB, Innsbruck, Grenoble from last winter remain not bookable. Stockholm, Valencia, Venice and Naples are not showing after summer but Madrid, Mahon and Paphos return late March which is earlier than this year. Increases to Alicante and Las Palmas all winter, Malaga is daily all March. It does say further adjustments to come.

Cityjet

The SSJ now extends into June on SN2037/8. The RJ85 is to appear on the KLM Amsterdam but I have yet to find which flights. Major disappointment as I class that as a major downgrade compared to the scheduled 175/190/73G/73H/73j.

Swiss

Talk about Heinz! FRom various booking engines this summer shows, Helvetic 190's, F100's Swiss A320's 319's, Swiss European RJ100, BCS1's Edelwiss A320's and now even an Austrian Arrows DH8D (2 Sundays in May then a couple in June).

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Old 10th Apr 2017, 09:49
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Originally Posted by Flying Wild
All 737-8MG aircraft at the moment. There have been a few ad-hoc charters recently which could account for other aircraft. Unlikely to have older model -800s based there due to some spares differences.
Agreed, there's a few charters that might give the impression that the older types are based.

For example 733 G-GDFG went to Venice and back as LS6300/6301 on 4/4. nice to see a 733 come in for a change tho
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Is anybody keeping a log of the Jet2 737s now based at the airport? The airline promised brand new aicraft would be based at BHX but I thought that I saw an old B738 last week.
any idea where it was promised?
an aircraft type isn't part of any pax contract, let alone a sub-type of a certain one, if Jet2 are expected to isolate fleets at bases then its going to cause some real flexibility issues when the peak season hits.

suspect whatever marketing you read probably had a little disclaimer at the bottom:
*subject to availability
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In the initial blurb but obviously part of a marketing ploy as PAX generally don't know A from B however it can be found here:

Jet2.com and Jet2holidays Land at Birmingham Airport | Jet2.com

They're pretty adamant they're brand new tho - lol

"- FOUR BRAND NEW aircraft offering 590,000 SEATS"

"the flights will operate on FOUR of Jet2.com and Jet2holidays’ brand new Boeing 737-800 next generation aircraft"

"It’s fantastic to be bringing our friendly low fares, great value package holidays, plus our brand new aircraft to Birmingham Airport"

"This friendly leisure airline is in response to customer demand offering great value deals to some of the most popular sunshine routes on a fleet of brand new 737-800 aircraft.”

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Old 10th Apr 2017, 17:06
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Yes, but come on, as you surely know there's "marketingese", and there's reality! They can "base" 4 brand new aircraft, but that doesn't mean they won't be substituted, rotated or whatever through the base.
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