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Ahh I apologise - I wasn't thinking in terms of "rated" 5* airlines, but then you've got to ask who is handing out the stars, how are they awarded, and what do they actually mean. I've stayed a few 4 star hotels that I personally wouldn't award with a minor planet! (My employer has got more sense than to allow people to waste money on 5 star anything!).
The chances of BHX picking up more than perhaps two of these are some stage in the far off future are really pretty remote - and by time BHX get them, they'll probably have been knocked off their pedestal having become complacent, or too big!
Fact remains that BHX has got far more quality carriers than most UK airports, and really, given the general dumbing down of passenger service in the last decade or so, that's no mean feat.
The chances of BHX picking up more than perhaps two of these are some stage in the far off future are really pretty remote - and by time BHX get them, they'll probably have been knocked off their pedestal having become complacent, or too big!
Fact remains that BHX has got far more quality carriers than most UK airports, and really, given the general dumbing down of passenger service in the last decade or so, that's no mean feat.
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BHX-HAJ has been pushed back to the 17.xx timing of previous years for summer 2014, indicating some major changes to aircraft rotations. Also, Sunday evening appear timed for Dash8, so far E175.
BHX-STR appears to be cut to 6/7.
BHX-STR appears to be cut to 6/7.
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Flybe Birmingham-Knock
Flybe Birmingham-Knock is bookable daily from Sunday 30th March 2014 (May change). Waterford despite excellent loads this past few months remains at 4 weekly.
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Extensive changes but overall not doom and gloom route wise if the same can't be said for job losses. The BHX schedule (if finalised) shows a net increase I believe in flights but a loss of seats with the away based EDI, GLA and BHD flights changing to the Q400.
BHX goes from 10 aircraft based to 9 and it appears the jets stay the same as now 1 x 195 and 3 x 175 with 2 x 195's leaving compared to last summer. As mentioned t previously no route loses but Stuttgart once a day at 09.55-14.34 and Hanvover moves to 17.00 departure.
The three based 175's operate 8 sectors each although one of the schedules is out of sync.
BHX-EDI-BHX-LYS-BHX-EDI-BHX-EDI
BHX-BHD-BHX-ABZ-BHX-MXP-BHX-BHD-BHX
BHX-DUS-BHX-BHD-BHX-DUS-BHX-DUS-BHX
As you can see MXP is a downgrade from the 118 seat 195 last summer and the BHD as well.
The Monday & Friday BHX - JER third service is cut but Amsterdam seems to go three daily except Saturday but that increases to two flights and three on a Sunday is an increase.
EDI is showing four daily on a Saturday and five on a Sunday, the Saturday is definitely an increase.
So it seems IOM survives and if it does get cut it will take quite a bit of timetable changes and you think this would have been done today.
Pete
BHX goes from 10 aircraft based to 9 and it appears the jets stay the same as now 1 x 195 and 3 x 175 with 2 x 195's leaving compared to last summer. As mentioned t previously no route loses but Stuttgart once a day at 09.55-14.34 and Hanvover moves to 17.00 departure.
The three based 175's operate 8 sectors each although one of the schedules is out of sync.
BHX-EDI-BHX-LYS-BHX-EDI-BHX-EDI
BHX-BHD-BHX-ABZ-BHX-MXP-BHX-BHD-BHX
BHX-DUS-BHX-BHD-BHX-DUS-BHX-DUS-BHX
As you can see MXP is a downgrade from the 118 seat 195 last summer and the BHD as well.
The Monday & Friday BHX - JER third service is cut but Amsterdam seems to go three daily except Saturday but that increases to two flights and three on a Sunday is an increase.
EDI is showing four daily on a Saturday and five on a Sunday, the Saturday is definitely an increase.
So it seems IOM survives and if it does get cut it will take quite a bit of timetable changes and you think this would have been done today.
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The first FlyDubai 738 to receive attention from MAEL arrived @ 0630 this morning,direct from Boeing field.
It looks like MAEL will provide the best BHX movements for the foreseeable future.
It looks like MAEL will provide the best BHX movements for the foreseeable future.
What can Monarch do to a brand new ME registered 737 that Boeing can't?
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The people handing out the stars are passengers who travel with the airlines so its the people that count .
Airlines are rated by them in all aspects of the airline, from check in, transfer, seating in all classes, entertainment, dining, crew helpfulness/friendliness, you name it.
Have a look World Airline Rating | A-Z Airlines
Agree however that BHX does have more decent full fare airlines than most other regional airports in the UK.
Nigel
The people handing out the stars are passengers who travel with the airlines so its the people that count .
Airlines are rated by them in all aspects of the airline, from check in, transfer, seating in all classes, entertainment, dining, crew helpfulness/friendliness, you name it.
Have a look World Airline Rating | A-Z Airlines
Agree however that BHX does have more decent full fare airlines than most other regional airports in the UK.
Nigel
Nigel
I would say that the ratings are about as valuable as Tripadvisor rating for hotels i.e. open to manipulation.
That said, the 5* star list does include many of those you would expect it to!
I would say that the ratings are about as valuable as Tripadvisor rating for hotels i.e. open to manipulation.
That said, the 5* star list does include many of those you would expect it to!
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Major changes to the FR 2014 schedule but I assume very much WIP taking into account all the gaps. All French and Italian routes not bookable, Dublin just twice daily (I assume working out which base operates certain flights) and RZE also off sale.
Ibiza and Reus for the first time in ages are pushed back to May starts, which is hardly surprising.
Barcelona has a couple of early departures from the BHX base (Wed & Sat) as does LDY on a Monday.
Pete
Ibiza and Reus for the first time in ages are pushed back to May starts, which is hardly surprising.
Barcelona has a couple of early departures from the BHX base (Wed & Sat) as does LDY on a Monday.
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So what happens to the pax who have already booked TRS, MPL etc? Not exactly a good advert for booking flights in advance with FR. I hope this is a positive work in progress and not a sign that they are falling out with BHX. Then again loads to TRS, MPL etc are highly seasonal perhaps they will just operate Jun-Sep?
So what happens to the pax who have already booked TRS, MPL etc? Not exactly a good advert for booking flights in advance with FR.
It reminds me a lot of what used to go on in the IT industry in the 70s and 80s when holidays were booked on flimsy flight schedules, operated by a plethora of airlines, some that existed, others that did not.
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Good day today at BHX.
Fly Dubai arrived, then later a BA 747,767 and PIA LHR fog divs
Fly Dubai arrived, then later a BA 747,767 and PIA LHR fog divs
A little fog causes misery for millions of travellers | Mail Online
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The grumpy Max Hastings wasn't pleased with the Birminham fog diversions (or anything else) :
A little fog causes misery for millions of travellers | Mail Online
A little fog causes misery for millions of travellers | Mail Online
"This story reads as if it is the lager fuelled ravings of the local pub bore and makes as just sense."
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FR & Diversions
B]Diversions[/B]
The fact that the 767 went on the 20's you would hope it was intended as a fuel and go to start with. I would say the length of time of the aircraft was unfortunate but hardly excessive.
The main thing of difficulty(in the past) at BHX I have been told, is the availability of coaches for the onward journey home or getting the fuellers out.
The most amazing aspect is that BHX is on any airline diversion list this winter with closing at 11pm in the week, just one CAT 1 ILS and without the full runway lighting.
Ryanair
Hopefully some of the routes taken off sale orreduced are just waiting to be retimed although MPL, PGF, GRO and at time TRS were pretty light on loads and fares were soft to say the least on some.
Pete
The fact that the 767 went on the 20's you would hope it was intended as a fuel and go to start with. I would say the length of time of the aircraft was unfortunate but hardly excessive.
The main thing of difficulty(in the past) at BHX I have been told, is the availability of coaches for the onward journey home or getting the fuellers out.
The most amazing aspect is that BHX is on any airline diversion list this winter with closing at 11pm in the week, just one CAT 1 ILS and without the full runway lighting.
Ryanair
Hopefully some of the routes taken off sale orreduced are just waiting to be retimed although MPL, PGF, GRO and at time TRS were pretty light on loads and fares were soft to say the least on some.
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The gent forgets planes divert for safety and it is far better than it used to be, when every 747/DC-10/Tristar had to divert when the RVR dropped to 550m then 300m.
Now its 075m RVR most Boeings and 125m on Airbus..although stand to be corrected on this. Probably 90% drop in planes having to divert.
If you book a flight in the winter from a busy airport like LHR then you have to accept you might get delayed if bad weather closes in.
Nigel
Now its 075m RVR most Boeings and 125m on Airbus..although stand to be corrected on this. Probably 90% drop in planes having to divert.
If you book a flight in the winter from a busy airport like LHR then you have to accept you might get delayed if bad weather closes in.
Nigel