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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Birmingham
Age: 59
Posts: 816
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Solihull
Age: 56
Posts: 3,162
United
Following on from Glasgow, BHX now gone as well for winter although another site says full-stop.
Monday 30 October to Friday 23 March showing on some sites as the rest period.
United don't show it returning on 23 March and it seems it might be ending even earlier.
Monday 30 October to Friday 23 March showing on some sites as the rest period.
United don't show it returning on 23 March and it seems it might be ending even earlier.
Last edited by OltonPete; 12th Jul 2017 at 18:08. Reason: added text
Join Date: May 2003
Location: All over the place
Posts: 336
Originally Posted by OltonPete
Following on from Glasgow, BHX now gone as well for winter although another site says full-stop.
Monday 30 October to Friday 23 March showing on some sites as the rest period.
United don't show it returning on 23 March and it seems it might be ending even earlier.
Monday 30 October to Friday 23 March showing on some sites as the rest period.
United don't show it returning on 23 March and it seems it might be ending even earlier.
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Stafford
Posts: 440
Thomson are launching flights to Podgorica, x1 weekly from 16 May 2018. Will be great to finally see Montenegro on the departure boards.
Also Thomas Cook will be operating the 757-300 on Weds flights to Heraklion over the summer peak.
Also Thomas Cook will be operating the 757-300 on Weds flights to Heraklion over the summer peak.
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 886
UA
Sad news indeed, a big nail in the coffin for long haul at BHX. I think EWR has been on borrowed time for a while and I can't foresee another scheduled transatlantic service for a long time. It's quite depressing, (but in the current climate not surprising) to think that in summer 2018 we will have just two weekly flights across the pond. With Norwegian also gone and rumours that Vueling could be, it's not looking as rosy for 2018 as it did last year for airlines at BHX. Personally I have my doubts about Icelandair, as they rely quite heavily on US connecting traffic. Perhaps the withdrawal of UA might boost their loads a bit? Qatar could also be another casualty due to the ever worsening political situation with its neighbours.
I think BHX needs to focus on its core markets and carriers, get on with much needed infrastructure upgrades to allow them to expand and leave the serious long haul to MAN. I think the best we can hope for long haul wise is a slow expansion of seasonal charter routes - I could see Cuba and perhaps Las Vegas as possibilities. Let's hope Goa and Phuket are a success this winter.
I think BHX needs to focus on its core markets and carriers, get on with much needed infrastructure upgrades to allow them to expand and leave the serious long haul to MAN. I think the best we can hope for long haul wise is a slow expansion of seasonal charter routes - I could see Cuba and perhaps Las Vegas as possibilities. Let's hope Goa and Phuket are a success this winter.
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Manchester
Age: 54
Posts: 47
Prior to the CO merger, UA were never very enthusiastic about UK regional airports. They briefly operated GLA-IAD roundabout 1990 but it was Continental who introduced most regional routes. Though UA did introduce new regional routes post-merger - Newcastle to Newark, Manchester to Washington and Edinburgh to Chicago - only the latter remains.
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 647
We need to look at an index of economic benefit ???? to a region, associated with given routes.
How about a log based index system (if we include LHR in this context) of perceived economic benefit/loss to an economic catchment as a metric.
The loss of a transatlantic route to a region like the West Mids is far more dramatic economically than say the loss of say 4 routes designed for "Bucket & Spade" links designed for SLF like me where they are already served.
20 Years Service: Yep: a last gasp based PR Effort: sadly.
Now many "BHX supporters" used the service ? I used the AA 23/24 an average of a dozen times (Tourist Class) over 15 Years.
Lets look at the positive side:A peak time air-bridge slot freed up.
Less noise, less pollution locally and more room in the terminal; of course there's a loss on income to the airport/services providers and the economic utility of the facility is eroded, but every little helps more room for the hoy poly like me ! sadly.
Was this event why PK decided to errr opt for the door ?
CAT III
How about a log based index system (if we include LHR in this context) of perceived economic benefit/loss to an economic catchment as a metric.
The loss of a transatlantic route to a region like the West Mids is far more dramatic economically than say the loss of say 4 routes designed for "Bucket & Spade" links designed for SLF like me where they are already served.
20 Years Service: Yep: a last gasp based PR Effort: sadly.
Now many "BHX supporters" used the service ? I used the AA 23/24 an average of a dozen times (Tourist Class) over 15 Years.
Lets look at the positive side:A peak time air-bridge slot freed up.
Less noise, less pollution locally and more room in the terminal; of course there's a loss on income to the airport/services providers and the economic utility of the facility is eroded, but every little helps more room for the hoy poly like me ! sadly.
Was this event why PK decided to errr opt for the door ?
CAT III
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: -
Posts: 741
UA Leaving Birmingham...
I'm a little off the boil on Birmingham news, but very sad to see the Newark route ending, after 20+ years...
People are saying, it is not surprising news, how come?
In the time the Birmingham to Newark route has been going, we've seen recessions, credit crunches, 9/11, record fuel prices and competition on the route from other carriers, and CO/UA have always come out the other end maintaining the route in some form...
The economy is still very buoyant and with the US outside of Brexit, I struggle to see that as a cause. Also Birmingham had no competition on the route from low cost competition like Norwegian or Thomas Cook.
I remember back in the late 90's or early 00s the route was so successful, it was upgraded to the DC-10 and at another time operated twice daily on certain days, flying 10-11 times a week, with the 757's.
I wonder if Emirates could see this as an opportunity to fly something like NYC-BHX-DXB?!... Maybe exercise their fifth freedom rights and re-introduce the third daily Dubai frequency, while at the same time operating onwards to the USA with a stop in Brum, they do something similar out of Milan and there's been rumours of a similar UK service for years.
People are saying, it is not surprising news, how come?
In the time the Birmingham to Newark route has been going, we've seen recessions, credit crunches, 9/11, record fuel prices and competition on the route from other carriers, and CO/UA have always come out the other end maintaining the route in some form...
The economy is still very buoyant and with the US outside of Brexit, I struggle to see that as a cause. Also Birmingham had no competition on the route from low cost competition like Norwegian or Thomas Cook.
I remember back in the late 90's or early 00s the route was so successful, it was upgraded to the DC-10 and at another time operated twice daily on certain days, flying 10-11 times a week, with the 757's.
I wonder if Emirates could see this as an opportunity to fly something like NYC-BHX-DXB?!... Maybe exercise their fifth freedom rights and re-introduce the third daily Dubai frequency, while at the same time operating onwards to the USA with a stop in Brum, they do something similar out of Milan and there's been rumours of a similar UK service for years.
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: W. Midlands
Posts: 356
"We expect to be making an announcement shortly regarding another airline serving North America non-stop from Birmingham"
Direct flights to New York from Birmingham set to return - Birmingham Mail
Direct flights to New York from Birmingham set to return - Birmingham Mail
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 371
"We expect to be making an announcement shortly regarding another airline serving North America non-stop from Birmingham"
In the time the Birmingham to Newark route has been going, we've seen recessions, credit crunches, 9/11, record fuel prices and competition on the route from other carriers, and CO/UA have always come out the other end maintaining the route in some form...
As Skipness pointed out it was Continental that originally established a game changing network of UK gateways in the days when they were prevented from serving LHR. UA have never really seemed quite as interested.
