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Old 10th Jul 2017, 23:05
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Runway 33 ILS

Runway 33 ILS now back at CAT3.
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 20:05
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Turkmenistan increase BHX to 5pw
EZ-A017 on approach
EZ-A018 yesterday
EZ-A019 on Sunday
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 12:58
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Busiest month ever for BHX


https://www.birminghamairport.co.uk/...-record-month/
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 16:39
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Busiest month ever for BHX
Tell me about it!
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 17:39
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July should see 1.4m & July 1.5m if we keep at +16%, 2017 should land at 13.3m+
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 18:00
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Following on from Glasgow, BHX now gone as well for winter although another site says full-stop.

Monday 30 October to Friday 23 March showing on some sites as the rest period.

United don't show it returning on 23 March and it seems it might be ending even earlier.

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Old 12th Jul 2017, 20:13
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Originally Posted by OltonPete View Post
Following on from Glasgow, BHX now gone as well for winter although another site says full-stop.

Monday 30 October to Friday 23 March showing on some sites as the rest period.

United don't show it returning on 23 March and it seems it might be ending even earlier.
Ending 5th October, no return planned for now.
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Old 12th Jul 2017, 20:25
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Glasgow isn't returning until may 5th.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 10:02
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Thomson are launching flights to Podgorica, x1 weekly from 16 May 2018. Will be great to finally see Montenegro on the departure boards.


Also Thomas Cook will be operating the 757-300 on Weds flights to Heraklion over the summer peak.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 18:23
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Sad news indeed, a big nail in the coffin for long haul at BHX. I think EWR has been on borrowed time for a while and I can't foresee another scheduled transatlantic service for a long time. It's quite depressing, (but in the current climate not surprising) to think that in summer 2018 we will have just two weekly flights across the pond. With Norwegian also gone and rumours that Vueling could be, it's not looking as rosy for 2018 as it did last year for airlines at BHX. Personally I have my doubts about Icelandair, as they rely quite heavily on US connecting traffic. Perhaps the withdrawal of UA might boost their loads a bit? Qatar could also be another casualty due to the ever worsening political situation with its neighbours.

I think BHX needs to focus on its core markets and carriers, get on with much needed infrastructure upgrades to allow them to expand and leave the serious long haul to MAN. I think the best we can hope for long haul wise is a slow expansion of seasonal charter routes - I could see Cuba and perhaps Las Vegas as possibilities. Let's hope Goa and Phuket are a success this winter.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 20:21
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Prior to the CO merger, UA were never very enthusiastic about UK regional airports. They briefly operated GLA-IAD roundabout 1990 but it was Continental who introduced most regional routes. Though UA did introduce new regional routes post-merger - Newcastle to Newark, Manchester to Washington and Edinburgh to Chicago - only the latter remains.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 20:38
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I can't foresee another scheduled transatlantic service for a long time.
Hmm, well you never know what BHX might have up their sleeves. 😉
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 21:32
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Gayfriendly you mentioned "With Norwegian also gone" have I missed something here ?
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 21:46
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No flights after the summer season ends. Nothing bookable next summer

Vueling - AGP, TFS & ALC all end regular service October leaving BCN & ORY.

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Old 13th Jul 2017, 22:08
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Very few Norwegian flights have been loaded. From EDI only Stockholm and Copenhagen, no TA. Even winter flights to TFS were only loaded recently.
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Old 13th Jul 2017, 22:23
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We need to look at an index of economic benefit ???? to a region, associated with given routes.

How about a log based index system (if we include LHR in this context) of perceived economic benefit/loss to an economic catchment as a metric.

The loss of a transatlantic route to a region like the West Mids is far more dramatic economically than say the loss of say 4 routes designed for "Bucket & Spade" links designed for SLF like me where they are already served.

20 Years Service: Yep: a last gasp based PR Effort: sadly.

Now many "BHX supporters" used the service ? I used the AA 23/24 an average of a dozen times (Tourist Class) over 15 Years.

Lets look at the positive side:A peak time air-bridge slot freed up.

Less noise, less pollution locally and more room in the terminal; of course there's a loss on income to the airport/services providers and the economic utility of the facility is eroded, but every little helps more room for the hoy poly like me ! sadly.

Was this event why PK decided to errr opt for the door ?

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Old 14th Jul 2017, 05:13
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UA Leaving Birmingham...

I'm a little off the boil on Birmingham news, but very sad to see the Newark route ending, after 20+ years...

People are saying, it is not surprising news, how come?

In the time the Birmingham to Newark route has been going, we've seen recessions, credit crunches, 9/11, record fuel prices and competition on the route from other carriers, and CO/UA have always come out the other end maintaining the route in some form...

The economy is still very buoyant and with the US outside of Brexit, I struggle to see that as a cause. Also Birmingham had no competition on the route from low cost competition like Norwegian or Thomas Cook.

I remember back in the late 90's or early 00s the route was so successful, it was upgraded to the DC-10 and at another time operated twice daily on certain days, flying 10-11 times a week, with the 757's.

I wonder if Emirates could see this as an opportunity to fly something like NYC-BHX-DXB?!... Maybe exercise their fifth freedom rights and re-introduce the third daily Dubai frequency, while at the same time operating onwards to the USA with a stop in Brum, they do something similar out of Milan and there's been rumours of a similar UK service for years.
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Old 14th Jul 2017, 07:31
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"We expect to be making an announcement shortly regarding another airline serving North America non-stop from Birmingham"


Direct flights to New York from Birmingham set to return - Birmingham Mail
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Old 14th Jul 2017, 07:46
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"We expect to be making an announcement shortly regarding another airline serving North America non-stop from Birmingham"
The return of Bangladesh perhaps ?

In the time the Birmingham to Newark route has been going, we've seen recessions, credit crunches, 9/11, record fuel prices and competition on the route from other carriers, and CO/UA have always come out the other end maintaining the route in some form...
Maybe UA (and AA) have finally started to realize that better competition is now coming to the UK regions in the shape of Norwegian, Virgin, TCX and they need to either lift their game - which means spending a lot of money in newer aircraft and service improvements - or give it away and retreat to their main strongholds LHR, EDI and MAN. Seems like they've looked at the numbers and decided on the latter. I wouldn't be surprised to see them retreat even further in the medium term.

As Skipness pointed out it was Continental that originally established a game changing network of UK gateways in the days when they were prevented from serving LHR. UA have never really seemed quite as interested.
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Old 14th Jul 2017, 13:42
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The times for the new Fly One Chisinau A320 service that starts this Saturday have changed:


14:20/15:10

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