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Monarch S14 update
The vacant slot on a Saturday morning left by the dropping of Bordeaux has been filled with a Mahon return (05:25 / 11:40) The flight operates from June until September
The vacant slot on a Saturday morning left by the dropping of Bordeaux has been filled with a Mahon return (05:25 / 11:40) The flight operates from June until September
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I can add some more to that.....Thursday Bordeaux replaced with a second Almeria departing 08.40 from 5 June with the original departing a bit later than first scheduled in the afternoon. Almeria has booked well for years but a different day next year might be of more use although Thomson have taken seats on the original Thursday flight (were going to use their own aircraft) and I was surprised at this, as ZB packed it out on their own at high fares.
A night Sunday Alicante also has been added very short season. I think either the first time or maybe second time ZB have flown a night Alicante from BHX.
Mahon - I am glad Monarch route planning read these boards
- post 1870 February 23. Now how about Lisbon or Madrid or be real devils Prague (although I have used that route calculator on PRG and maybe ZB is not the best airline to try it).
Good start to summer with Dalaman, Palma and Paphos restarting today, Barcelona and Almeria tomorrow and first for April...Bodrum from Friday but Nice, Venice and Mahon having to wait this year until May. Venice I assume is a marginal route despite good loads as it was cut for winter and not even brought back for Easter.
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I can add some more to that.....Thursday Bordeaux replaced with a second Almeria departing 08.40 from 5 June with the original departing a bit later than first scheduled in the afternoon. Almeria has booked well for years but a different day next year might be of more use although Thomson have taken seats on the original Thursday flight (were going to use their own aircraft) and I was surprised at this, as ZB packed it out on their own at high fares.
A night Sunday Alicante also has been added very short season. I think either the first time or maybe second time ZB have flown a night Alicante from BHX.
Mahon - I am glad Monarch route planning read these boards
- post 1870 February 23. Now how about Lisbon or Madrid or be real devils Prague (although I have used that route calculator on PRG and maybe ZB is not the best airline to try it). Good start to summer with Dalaman, Palma and Paphos restarting today, Barcelona and Almeria tomorrow and first for April...Bodrum from Friday but Nice, Venice and Mahon having to wait this year until May. Venice I assume is a marginal route despite good loads as it was cut for winter and not even brought back for Easter.
Pete
PM announces 4000 jobs at the airport
The PM made a speech the other day about 8000 jobs in the Midlands being created of which 4000 will be at the airport. Can anyone explain what positions these will be?
Prime Minister Welcomes The Announcement of 8000 Jobs at Birmingham Airport - Birmingham Airport
Prime Minister Welcomes The Announcement of 8000 Jobs at Birmingham Airport - Birmingham Airport
The PM made a speech the other day about 8000 jobs in the Midlands being created of which 4000 will be at the airport. Can anyone explain what positions these will be?
When you look at how jobs are being lost through "efficiencies" such as self check in and online check in, which will pretty soon virtually render check in staff extinct; and add to that the self service processing through the boarding gates that will surely follow, unless some new kinds of jobs are going to be invented at airports employment will more likely fall than rise.
Even retailers in the dreaded shopping malls on airports will employ more and more of those confounded self checkout machine (unidentifed chick-lit in the bagging area!!!).
As Ricky Tomlinson might have said - "more jobs my ar@e"!
At the moment they are little more than a PR man's spin - based on nothing, and just intended on producing a good sound bite for the boss!
Spin like this equals lies. How befitting a politician
The 'Express and Star' quote - ''There are already 6,000 people working at the airport, from control staff and airline crews to maintenance engineers and baggage handlers''
An increase of 4,000 is one hell of an increase. Lets revisit this projection sometime in the future, I will be amazed if it reaches that number.
An increase of 4,000 is one hell of an increase. Lets revisit this projection sometime in the future, I will be amazed if it reaches that number.
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The PM made a speech the other day about 8000 jobs in the Midlands being created of which 4000 will be at the airport. Can anyone explain what positions these will be?
Prime Minister Welcomes The Announcement of 8000 Jobs at Birmingham Airport - Birmingham Airport
Prime Minister Welcomes The Announcement of 8000 Jobs at Birmingham Airport - Birmingham Airport
Love the reference to potential of routes like Brazil in the linked press cutting (Infomercial)- bout as likely as my cat growing wings !
Love the reference to potential of routes like Brazil in the linked press cutting (Infomercial)- bout as likely as my cat growing wings !
Moving (sort of) back to more relevant matters, the marketing people at the airport do seem to be enjoying a little success in attracting "big planes" to the shiny new runway extension, with the Turmenistan 772 operation looking as though it's becoming a reality in July, and I would bet more developments in the pipeline; leaving aside Biman, who BHX are still betting on.
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Moving back into the real world,there is a Hi-Fly A340 operating the former Air Berlin Hanover flight today.It came in last night and due out in the next hour,but due back in tonight .It will also operate tomorrows Paderborn flight.
Also a former Royal Jordanian A321 is due in this afternoon to MAEL,It will become G-ZBAK.Not sure if it still RJA colours though.I guess we will soon find out
Also a former Royal Jordanian A321 is due in this afternoon to MAEL,It will become G-ZBAK.Not sure if it still RJA colours though.I guess we will soon find out
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Brazil...
I agree with the comment made regarding direct flights to Brazil, not a hope in Hell.
However, as a frequent traveller to Brazil and flying out of Birmingham, I have always been surprised how many people do fly to Rio. I always ask on checking in and invariably there are four - five who will transit via Amsterdam on the 0600 flight and possibly others bound for Sao Paulo. Add to this, those who may choose to transit via Paris and Frankfurt and the figure grows.
Tangentially there are also those who will transit in Amsterdam, Paris and Frankfurt to countries in Africa.
Given South America and parts of Africa have very strong links with Portugal through language and history I remain surprised that TAP have never developed a Lisbon link from BHX. For me, TAP would be the preferred airline to Rio as the flight itself is shorter than either Paris, Amsterdam or Frankfurt.
TAP could be missing out here, I live in the hope that both they and Lisbon will appear before too long.
However, as a frequent traveller to Brazil and flying out of Birmingham, I have always been surprised how many people do fly to Rio. I always ask on checking in and invariably there are four - five who will transit via Amsterdam on the 0600 flight and possibly others bound for Sao Paulo. Add to this, those who may choose to transit via Paris and Frankfurt and the figure grows.
Tangentially there are also those who will transit in Amsterdam, Paris and Frankfurt to countries in Africa.
Given South America and parts of Africa have very strong links with Portugal through language and history I remain surprised that TAP have never developed a Lisbon link from BHX. For me, TAP would be the preferred airline to Rio as the flight itself is shorter than either Paris, Amsterdam or Frankfurt.
TAP could be missing out here, I live in the hope that both they and Lisbon will appear before too long.
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For me, TAP would be the preferred airline to Rio as the flight itself is shorter than either Paris, Amsterdam or Frankfurt.
TAP could be missing out here, I live in the hope that both they and Lisbon will appear before too long.
TAP could be missing out here, I live in the hope that both they and Lisbon will appear before too long.
Chasing long haul won't achieve more than a few % of % of growth.
Birmingham's major gaps in the EU network need plugging before chasing glamour routes.
Even West Coast US routes struggle from some of the larger European points they are very expensive in resources - 2 frames and several crews are required for a simple daily LAX services.
UK regional services are further hampered by relatively high frequencies from London having excess seats in economy and these being dumped via third party online sites at stupid fares.
I think a weekly charter to Las Vegas could be the most BHX could possibly achieve mid term.
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Forget the ongoing saga of Biman but in my opinion the disappointment of 2014 was the lack of ability to attract TAP. Their new short to medium haul routes this year are Belgrade, Tallin, St Petersburg, Nantes, Gothenburg and Hanover.
I am sure all of those airports can proably give a good reason why they should get a Lisbon before BHX and I have no idea if there are sizeable ex-pat Portuguese populations in any of those cities but you would think BHX should be able to compete with two or three of those cities in respect of potential passenger numbers. Manchester seems to have proved a successful third UK route and I realise that it is probably less of a risk concentrating on building existing routes but still disappointing.
Also the route has operated before with reasonable load factors (BMI Baby) although fares varied. However the route last time only ended as the airline was closing. I will concede that low-yields have been cited on Portuguese routes before but we are talking 189 seats (FR Oporto) and 149 seats (Baby Lisbon) compared to TAP A319's or PGA F100's with the advantage of a hub and probably a more business friendly frequency.
rutankrd Las Vegas - agreed and also a weekly seasonal Vancouver as that should attract outbound tourists from the Midlands and VFR traffic between the Sikh populations in both the connected metropolitan areas (I am thinking Transat). Also maintaining the Thomson 787 all week should be an immediate target for the airport especially as their pax are usually highlighted for their average spend at the airport.
flybe - Inverness twice daily in the summer hoildays with a INV overnighting aircraft inbound early and departing BHX in the afternoon. Usual French routes are increased for the summer holidays as well as the third Jersey on Monday and Friday has been restored.
KLM - Not only increased with the F70 flight hanging to a 73G (except Sunday) it also appears that the night-stop has changed to the 738. Note flybe add a forth rotation to Amsterdam in June on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
SAS - They seem to be going ahead with the upgrade of the evening service to Copenhagen from the CRJ9 to the A319/320 from 22 April 2014
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Forget the ongoing saga of Biman but in my opinion the disappointment of 2014 was the lack of ability to attract TAP. Their new short to medium haul routes this year are Belgrade, Tallin, St Petersburg, Nantes, Gothenburg and Hanover.
I am sure all of those airports can proably give a good reason why they should get a Lisbon before BHX and I have no idea if there are sizeable ex-pat Portuguese populations in any of those cities but you would think BHX should be able to compete with two or three of those cities in respect of potential passenger numbers. Manchester seems to have proved a successful third UK route and I realise that it is probably less of a risk concentrating on building existing routes but still disappointing.
Also the route has operated before with reasonable load factors (BMI Baby) although fares varied. However the route last time only ended as the airline was closing. I will concede that low-yields have been cited on Portuguese routes before but we are talking 189 seats (FR Oporto) and 149 seats (Baby Lisbon) compared to TAP A319's or PGA F100's with the advantage of a hub and probably a more business friendly frequency.
rutankrd Las Vegas - agreed and also a weekly seasonal Vancouver as that should attract outbound tourists from the Midlands and VFR traffic between the Sikh populations in both the connected metropolitan areas (I am thinking Transat). Also maintaining the Thomson 787 all week should be an immediate target for the airport especially as their pax are usually highlighted for their average spend at the airport.
flybe - Inverness twice daily in the summer hoildays with a INV overnighting aircraft inbound early and departing BHX in the afternoon. Usual French routes are increased for the summer holidays as well as the third Jersey on Monday and Friday has been restored.
KLM - Not only increased with the F70 flight hanging to a 73G (except Sunday) it also appears that the night-stop has changed to the 738. Note flybe add a forth rotation to Amsterdam in June on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
SAS - They seem to be going ahead with the upgrade of the evening service to Copenhagen from the CRJ9 to the A319/320 from 22 April 2014
Pete
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landed into BHX at 8pm tonight, G-ZBAK sat outside on the apron outside the Monarch hangar in Royal Jordanian livery minus titles, no doubt its booked to visit BOH paint shop or one of the others in time.
There is a photo of the a/c on the BHX airport photo blog page.
There is a photo of the a/c on the BHX airport photo blog page.
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When you look at how jobs are being lost through "efficiencies" such as self check in and online check in, which will pretty soon virtually render check in staff extinct; and add to that the self service processing through the boarding gates that will surely follow, unless some new kinds of jobs are going to be invented at airports employment will more likely fall than rise.
If BHX is to reach that potential of 15m by 2020 then securing service by TAP and other EU carriers including a major flexible carrier commitment are essential.
Chasing long haul won't achieve more than a few % of % of growth.
Birmingham's major gaps in the EU network need plugging before chasing glamour routes.
Chasing long haul won't achieve more than a few % of % of growth.
Birmingham's major gaps in the EU network need plugging before chasing glamour routes.
UK regional services are further hampered by relatively high frequencies from London having excess seats in economy and these being dumped via third party online sites at stupid fares.
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New Runway Dimensions
Just been on the NATS website, and the new BHX charts are on the AIP Amendments 28 days section, all new charts effective from 1st May.
Runway 15/33 dimensions: 3052m x 45m
THR elevation 33 :- 328ft, THR elevation 15 :- 303ft
Runway 15:- TORA 3003m, TODA 3063m, ASDA 3003m, LDA 2580m
Runway 33:- TORA 3003m, TODA 3196m, ASDA 3003m, LDA 2449m
As these new charts are effective from 1st May, presumably this is the date of the runway extension opening?
regards
Matt
Runway 15/33 dimensions: 3052m x 45m
THR elevation 33 :- 328ft, THR elevation 15 :- 303ft
Runway 15:- TORA 3003m, TODA 3063m, ASDA 3003m, LDA 2580m
Runway 33:- TORA 3003m, TODA 3196m, ASDA 3003m, LDA 2449m
As these new charts are effective from 1st May, presumably this is the date of the runway extension opening?
regards
Matt
