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Old 28th May 2014, 12:28
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Amsterdam, Birmingham (begins 5 February 2015), Boston, Copenhagen, Denver, Edmonton, Frankfurt, Glasgow-International, Helsinki, London-Gatwick, London-Heathrow, Manchester, Munich, New York-JFK, Newark, Oslo-Gardermoen, Paris-Charles de Gaulle, Seattle/Tacoma, Stockholm-Arlanda, Toronto-Pearson, Washington-Dulles

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Old 28th May 2014, 16:42
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Don´t envy Flybe competing with Icelandair and easyJet just down the road at Luton, me thinks they will not last long on the route.
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Old 28th May 2014, 17:17
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Iceland

A lot of seats to fill on a 757 compared to a 170 though.

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Old 28th May 2014, 17:17
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Icelandair

Hurrah! For a long time I've back Icelandair starting up BHX as a viable alternative to a second US carrier. Interesting timing though; certainly one to watch.
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The amouncement from Icelandair does look like an attempt to protect their market share from other locations - Why now ? I'm old enough to remember Air Canada's brief service to Toronto to expunge Wardair from BHX/CWL. A relativly big airliner, twice a week commencing in FEB !

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Old 28th May 2014, 18:28
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On that basis why haven't they started LTN and BRS then?
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Old 28th May 2014, 20:10
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I doubt they could compete with easyJet on prices so keeping well away.
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Old 28th May 2014, 21:16
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'A 170' I assume refers to a Flybe E175, which has 88 seats. So yes, a 95 seat difference is quite a lot, even down the back.
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Old 28th May 2014, 22:12
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Remember we are talking about x2 757s and x3 E175s a week and I should imagine Icelandair will be targeting connecting pax and feeding their hub while Flybe aim at point to point traffic. Also worth pointing out Icelandair operate a higher frequency at MAN with far more competitoon to the US aswell as competion from EZY. Flybe also reported healthy bookings for KEF so there is obviously demand.
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Old 28th May 2014, 22:32
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It is very hard to find free hotel rooms at both Keflavik and Reykjavik this summer. We had to abandon one of the options for our flight in to MAN (OSL-KEF-MAN with Icelandair) in August due to this.
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Old 29th May 2014, 17:01
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Icelandair

Fabulous news and I give myself a pat on the back for suggesting this as an ideal airline and route for BHX to be chasing a few months ago! They will vastly improve the range of North American connections from BHX without having to resort to back tracking to FRA, AMS etc (and lets face it, BHX needs better N Atlantic connections as at present there appears to be no interest from AA, DL, UA to start flying from or expand at BHX). You can also take advantage of a free packaged stopover in Iceland on the way back if you have the time. Having been to Iceland it is a great short break destination, even in winter (I went in November, yes quite dark but still loads to do). I really hope this works out.


As for BE, if I'm being completely honest I would rather see BE put the aircraft to use on something like LIS or BUD, however there may be room for both as BE I think will mostly be cheaper than FI if just travelling to/from Iceland, they are both going for different markets. Good luck to them both!

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Airlines should be encouraged to use regional airports
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Old 5th Jun 2014, 11:58
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You can offer airlines all the incentives you want, but if they can't fill the aircraft with their desired yields, it won't make the slightest difference. Airlines would have to be convinced that using regional airports would result in more revenue than by using say LHR. Good luck with that. It's been said a hundred times before.

BHX also says Birmingham Airport is only 70 mins from London. Great, that means it's only 70 mins travel to catch your flight from a London airport. Happy days!
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Old 5th Jun 2014, 12:49
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BHX also says Birmingham Airport is only 70 mins from London. Great, that means it's only 70 mins travel to catch your flight from a London airport. Happy days!
That, if I may say so, sums up the Londoncentric attitude that prevails in the southeast of the UK - to the detriment of the majority of us who do not (thank heavens!).

That said, frankly I believe that what Paul Kehoe is purported to have said is nothing more than political spin - aimed at getting press coverage for BHX, which of itself is a fair objective. It would be great if economically the UK were more balanced but it ain't going to happen anytime soon, so BHX, and most of airports outside London will continue to fight hard for every new service they can attract - and BHX isn't doing too badly in that department at the moment!
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Old 5th Jun 2014, 14:45
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"This means changes to tax rules to encourage airlines to use regional airports for long haul routes, and a concerted government-led marketing push around the world to let growing markets and foreign airlines know Britain's city regions and our airports are open for business."
He's using a lot of words to say "Subsidise me".
Yes, now the state needs to do the job of......his own marketing department????

That, if I may say so, sums up the Londoncentric attitude that prevails in the southeast of the UK - to the detriment of the majority of us who do not (thank heavens!).
Hardly, it's a statement of an obvious reality. People in Birmingham use Heathrow as it has many more long haul connections at better prices than BHX simply becasuse it has an immense O&D market that supports a huge number of frequent fliers upfront which holds down prices in the back allowing more people to travel for less year round at a higher frequency, than anything a local airport can match. Quite why this is a bad thing for the general consumer, I have yet to understand......

btw London is the majority of the South East by far, it's around 9 million people, fast approaching the combined populations of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland combined. I think BHX is great airport, it's way better than many in the UK of a similar size, however the absurd witterings of those that claim BHX is in some way any kind of answer to the London Airports capacity crunch shows an ignorance of the market they claim to serve. Glasgow has a great wee airport at PIK with it's own railway station, based Ryanair fleet and great rail prices. It was recently nationalised for £1. Capacity and location count for nothing in a free market when people having tried both options, keep using the "wrong" one......
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Old 6th Jun 2014, 23:02
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BHX also says Birmingham Airport is only 70 mins from London. Great, that means it's only 70 mins travel to catch your flight from a London airport. Happy days!
From London-EUSTON only. Realistically, how many journeys start or end there? In reality there's going to be another 1-2 hours to add to that.

Going by road? could be a great deal more. The long and short of it is quite simple: if you're catching a flight from Elmdon and travelling from London (or the south east generally) allow a hell of a lot more than "70 minutes"!


BHX also says Birmingham Airport is only 70 mins from London. Great, that means it's only 70 mins travel to catch your flight from a London airport. Happy days!
Not necessarily "London-centric", it's a similar distance/time to Manchester. The truth is that BHX is squeezed by the proximity of both Heathrow and Ringway, and both are larger airports.
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Old 8th Jun 2014, 23:25
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I have not travelled through BHX in ages, so my excuses for this question:

Is it possible to do an airside transfer when arriving from Dublin and connecting on a domestic flight? Or are passengers arriving in a separate arrival lounge and need to clear security again from landside if they are connecting (it would be a "self-built" connection, hebce the asking).

The last time I made a connection at BHX was when BA still had its Eurohub...
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Old 9th Jun 2014, 09:13
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Sorry, BHX "does not do" connections. You will have to go landside and back through security.
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The truth is that BHX is squeezed by the proximity of both Heathrow and Ringway, and both are larger airports.
To jump to BHX's defence ...

For a few years I lived in Northamptonshire and then a year in Shropshire, I'm a Londoner by birth, but BHX became my local favourite, I could pretty much travel wherever my business, and social, directed me often via an intermediary hub stop but that wasn't a problem for me.

The joy of BHX was that at a local rail station I could park the car for free and then take a 3 minute train journey in/out of the "International" station and particularly when transiting thru the smaller terminal it was simply a pleasure.

LHR, MAN and others might be described as supermarkets, I wouldn't describe BHX as a corner shop, more like a 7/11, and whilst some of the local enthusiasts might take exception to me describing their airport as a 7/11 it is intended as a compliment, of all the UK airports that I have transited through, combined with the choice of destinations available, then BHX was No.1 for me and I'm saying that as a southern git
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Hillwalker,

Re fares UA/ICE to New York just done a sample for late April 2015.


UA- BHX-EWR-BHX cheapest fare £735.00

ICE BHX-JFK-BHX ( via Iceland) £599.00

As you are heading in the right direction , ICE may certainly tempt me if we can save £250.. plus, per couple, depending on the connection time in Iceland..


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