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Old 20th Mar 2013, 21:06
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Old 23rd Mar 2013, 11:32
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Ryanair may find it hard to sell around 105 planes at a good price up to 2019. The age at which FR is selling planes is going up and the market for a 787 that has had a decade with FR may be small. When things where better FR would sell planes at around 5 years old for around the same amount as the got new ones.
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Old 23rd Mar 2013, 12:34
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...and the market for a 787 that has had a decade with Ryanair may be small...
Well, I assume currently there is not a huge market for the 787 at all...
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Old 23rd Mar 2013, 20:51
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Ryanair may find it hard to sell around 105 planes at a good price up to 2019. The age at which FR is selling planes is going up and the market for a 787 that has had a decade with FR may be small. When things where better FR would sell planes at around 5 years old for around the same amount as the got new ones.
You mean you are saying that Ryanair selling aircraft for same price they paid for them was a good deal after all.
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 15:24
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That was years ago when they sold them young. FR have cut back on selling planes as the last order ended. When they start selling again the average age of those sold will mean the buyer will want a massive discount.
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 19:13
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That was years ago when they sold them young. FR have cut back on selling planes as the last order ended. When they start selling again the average age of those sold will mean the buyer will want a massive discount.
You really don't do figures that well do you....

Ave Fare - €50 (and rising)
Ave Pax per plane per year 400,000 (80 M Pax / 200 aircraft, its more as ground 80 for 4-5 months )
Ave Profit margin - 12%
(All info available)

So make roughly €3 M per plane per year at a guess.

Given you paid prob €20 M (or less) a plane and even if keep 10 yrs and sell for half then you still quids in.

Holding for 5 yrs means more profit as not spending billions to buy new ones.

And the downside again is where ?
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Old 24th Mar 2013, 19:57
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Downside?

Nope ducksie has this aircraft bit nailed don't forget FR is a creation o f one very talented aircraft leasing experts aka GPA and is a bean counter by birth so no way is there a chane he as got this part of his plan wrong, just like breeding
Thoroughbreds really.....


Best f luck to them just get the hedging right , u know I can help u and u know the price lol

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Old 25th Mar 2013, 07:23
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3/19/2013 RYANAIR ordered 175 737-800s for delivery through 2018 to join current fleet of 305 for replacement (75) and growth (100). It says it is evaluating the MAX.
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Old 25th Mar 2013, 13:10
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Ryanair in talks over Cardiff Airport routes | Wales Air Forum
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 13:59
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 14:19
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Market for used 737-800s

Southwest Airlines(USA) have been making noises about attractive prices of used 737-800s (Separate thread was started).
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Old 29th Mar 2013, 10:19
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TFS - FUE

in the web of Ryanair , when you go on the page of Ryanair and you go for new search, if you choose FUE, you can see Tenerfe South on the list, anyone knows if is one error of Ryanair or will be a new route, that they will anounce soon, or is a positional fly for more frecuencies from Fuerteventura or a new route will be for this plane?
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Old 29th Mar 2013, 10:36
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I think it's a glitch, but would be good if it happens. For ages on the new search menu (not the booking section on the home page) it has had Frankfurt-Hahn listed as a destination from East Midlands when they never have flown that route and has never even been put on sale before!
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Old 29th Mar 2013, 23:10
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What's going on here then?

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Old 1st Apr 2013, 03:38
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Well being of the age where I have to get up in middle of night to pee, lol . Had quick look on flight radar to see what was about ( not at same time I might add) was surprised to see a couple of ryanair planes flying at 3am , one to Dublin and another to Leeds , have often wondered why FR always try to get their planes in landed before the midnight hour, as easy tend to have a few coming in around 1 or 2 am in morning . I guess these 2 flight were lengthy delays especially the Leeds one was showing arrival around 445am . Have noticed on a few occasions recently, Ryanair planes about after midnight, is this a change to ryanairs thinking of getting people home or to destination, as (unfairly or not ) they do tend to have a reputation to cancel flights, or so the media would have you believe,
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Old 1st Apr 2013, 09:25
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These late night flights just may be positioning flights. Up until last week FR had aircraft laid up at many UK airfields - PIK, BHX, STN etc and with the start of the summer season these are being repositioned and in fact should all have been repositioned by now. There are none left parked up at PIK apart from the ones for routine maintenance.
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Old 1st Apr 2013, 10:05
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as (unfairly or not ) they do tend to have a reputation to cancel flights, or so the media would have you believe,
Think you may be thinking of negative stories about Ryanair in the media and by extension adding in "well they must cancel the most flights" where reality is it seems to be legacy carriers are more prone to doing that.

However Daily Mail and Express Editors and Journos would lose their upgrade priveleges when off on Long haul if they slagged off BA.
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Old 1st Apr 2013, 11:14
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What's going on here then?
There's a big thread in Rumours and News about this!
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Old 1st Apr 2013, 12:05
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There was bad weather in Poland last night that resulted in a number of diversions due to airports being closed. Several flights diverted where possible to other airports. The passengers for the return leg were sent by bus from their original airports to the airport diverted to and the flights operated from there.

A few flights were canceled, but most of the ones effected were just severely delayed due to road transport taking longer than expected due to atrocious conditions. Rather than cancel the flight they were just delayed and ran just very late. With Krakow being a base opening today, it was fairly easy to get crews yesterday to allow this with the original crew who were traveling as passengers.

It's Ryanair policy to always divert to nearest open airport that can accept aircraft and where possible operate the return flight from there rather than cancel it should road conditions allow. Legacies tend to avoid anything other than regular served airports or bases and if they do happen to divert to somewhere that doesn't fill this criteria they just cancel the reserve leg.

It would have been far easier for Ryanair to do just that but they don't make a habit of doing it in my experience, some other legacy airlines could learn this, let alone what we've had in the past when flights bound for Dublin have got diverted to Manchester rather than Cork, Belfast or Shannon for example. Of course if they land at Manchester it involves far less running around and work to do for the powers that be to organise things. If they land at a non base airport which is served even better, since it then becomes a problem of the handling agent.

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Old 1st Apr 2013, 19:15
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