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certainly not Virginholidays to JFK via LHR
As anyone flying to MIA, LAX, BOS, SFO, BOM, DEL, JNB, CPT, NRT etc ought to be flying from MAN and connecting abroad? I'm baffled now. You can get a better deal flying MAN-abc-JFK rather than pay the direct premium and flying MAN-JFK on the AA211. MAN still gets the passengers you know.
Some of the fares to EWR, JFK and DXB are way better over LHR with VS than with UA, AA and EK. This is becasuse of the high volume of onward connections can actually make it prohibitively expensive to fly a fraction of the way.
Airline economics are nuts!
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skippy I agree re fares..... there is usually a premium if you want to fly from an airport on your doorstep than connect via a major hub.
However all I am saying is that Charlie Cornish the MAG CEO was very bullish about the promotion of DIRECT Manchester flights rather than pax connecting via LHR in his press release Nov 1st 2012.
I'll reference his quote yet again.
"We think it's bonkers that people use Heathrow and then fly connect onwards, when they could do so from Manchester and in doing so, support jobs and the North West's economy."
The point I am desperately trying to get across (and seemingly failing) is the fact that it seems somewhat perverse that the airport marketing people are promoting flights VIA LONDON using tweeter, when the CEO himself has expressly suggested that he wants pax in the NWest to fly on OUR own services in those instances where a direct flight exists.
LAX yes I agree there has been PR about Aegean but stick it on ALL media platforms including tweeter ! That is after all what marketing is all about !
It's three lines and it costs nothing, they have 60,000 followers !
There are plenty of new or expanding routes which you summarised which are simply not being referenced on this media outlet.
OK, if its a conscious decision to use "other forms of digital media" or "traditional PR" to market new routes/change of equipment/expansion of frequency, then fine.....
But do not then use tweeter to market one set of flights without mentioning all the others and certainly not those that promote using London over our own direct services on AA or UA.
However all I am saying is that Charlie Cornish the MAG CEO was very bullish about the promotion of DIRECT Manchester flights rather than pax connecting via LHR in his press release Nov 1st 2012.
I'll reference his quote yet again.
"We think it's bonkers that people use Heathrow and then fly connect onwards, when they could do so from Manchester and in doing so, support jobs and the North West's economy."
The point I am desperately trying to get across (and seemingly failing) is the fact that it seems somewhat perverse that the airport marketing people are promoting flights VIA LONDON using tweeter, when the CEO himself has expressly suggested that he wants pax in the NWest to fly on OUR own services in those instances where a direct flight exists.
LAX yes I agree there has been PR about Aegean but stick it on ALL media platforms including tweeter ! That is after all what marketing is all about !
It's three lines and it costs nothing, they have 60,000 followers !
There are plenty of new or expanding routes which you summarised which are simply not being referenced on this media outlet.
OK, if its a conscious decision to use "other forms of digital media" or "traditional PR" to market new routes/change of equipment/expansion of frequency, then fine.....
But do not then use tweeter to market one set of flights without mentioning all the others and certainly not those that promote using London over our own direct services on AA or UA.
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Don't have my records with me, but I'd be surprised if MAN was cheaper than other suitable "cargo" airports in the UK for techstops.... EMA, STN, PIK etc?
LAX yes I agree there has been PR about Aegean but stick it on ALL media platforms including tweeter ! That is after all what marketing is all about! It's three lines and it costs nothing, they have 60,000 followers !
The point I am desperately trying to get across (and seemingly failing)
Part of the reason I left the other forum is because it turned into bloomin moan fest.
Nothing is good enough, its never quite right and its just moan, moan, moan and more moaning.
MAN could announce 20 new flights, and you would still find reason to complain. Yes there are some things that can do better, but come on, try to get less riled, you'll give yourself a coronary!
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To be honest so am I ....its like Monty Python !
.."is this the 15 minute argument or the full half hour"
It seemed a relevant point rather than a moan, but I shall withdraw.
..thanks for the concern but I certainly won't be having a coronary over comments on here
.."is this the 15 minute argument or the full half hour"
It seemed a relevant point rather than a moan, but I shall withdraw.
..thanks for the concern but I certainly won't be having a coronary over comments on here
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You can get a better deal flying MAN-abc-JFK rather than pay the direct premium and flying MAN-JFK on the AA211. MAN still gets the passengers you know.
Finance guy had options of Icelandair, Aer Lingus but then went for direct (thankfully).
So, that constant argument about 'yields'....on this evidence, AA should now upgrade to a 763?
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So, that constant argument about 'yields'....on this evidence, AA should now upgrade to a 763?
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on this evidence, AA should now upgrade to a 763
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It is being looked into running the B767-300 on ORD year round
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I think it is just JFK-MAN/DUB and winter ORD-MAN left. There is internal talk that MAN-ORD will go year round B787 when they arrive for the capacity and economics, but dont see it myself.
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New Scandinavian destination and new airline.
Flynonstop will run a 2 weekly Kristiansand (mon and Fri) from January 2014.
No doubt football related due to the days of operation and the obscurity of the destination.
Flynonstop will run a 2 weekly Kristiansand (mon and Fri) from January 2014.
No doubt football related due to the days of operation and the obscurity of the destination.
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Further to the last post, flynonstop now bookable on their website:
J7234 KRS 0730 MAN 0800 Fri E170
J7235 MAN 0850 KRS 1135 Fri E170
J7234 KRS 1930 MAN 2000 Mon E170
J7235 MAN 2050 KRS 2335 Mon E170
Effective 6th January 2014.
J7234 KRS 0730 MAN 0800 Fri E170
J7235 MAN 0850 KRS 1135 Fri E170
J7234 KRS 1930 MAN 2000 Mon E170
J7235 MAN 2050 KRS 2335 Mon E170
Effective 6th January 2014.
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20 is the big news again
The number 20 is big news in Manchester for the second time this Spring.
20 top flight football league titles (OK, it's 23 in total for both clubs) and 20 million terminal passengers rolling total for MAN. Achieved on the day that the first based B787 Dreamliner arrived, an aircraft which may have particular significance for the airport's global route network.
Yes, we have been here before, both going up and going down. The all- time high of 22.whatever million it was doesn't look so far off again.
20 top flight football league titles (OK, it's 23 in total for both clubs) and 20 million terminal passengers rolling total for MAN. Achieved on the day that the first based B787 Dreamliner arrived, an aircraft which may have particular significance for the airport's global route network.
Yes, we have been here before, both going up and going down. The all- time high of 22.whatever million it was doesn't look so far off again.
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FlyNonStop will be lucky to be launching routes after their recent cull
Scandinavia-MAN seems to be a strong market now. 11 destinations, over 90 weekly one way flights and 7 operators (8 if you count Hermes Airlines and their GOT stop en-route to which tickets can be booked).
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The AN124 has made a few tech stops en-route in the past at MAN, at one stage there was even talk of making it a regular stop off point.
Hi world_rep..... long time
As per ure quote above there was at 1 point talk of these being regular and i have no idea why it never happened as everything was in place. Dont think the costs were anymore than PIK or SNN would charge.
Steve
Hi world_rep..... long time
As per ure quote above there was at 1 point talk of these being regular and i have no idea why it never happened as everything was in place. Dont think the costs were anymore than PIK or SNN would charge.
Steve
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With the 75th anniversary of MAN fast approaching, is anyone aware of any equipment changes on the day itself to celebrate the occasion. BA did this at NCL in 2010 by putting a 744 on one of the LHR rotations.
Many Thanks.
Many Thanks.
With the 75th anniversary of MAN fast approaching, is anyone aware of any equipment changes on the day itself to celebrate the occasion. BA did this at NCL in 2010 by putting a 744 on one of the LHR rotations.
It would be great if MA could request airlines that have retro colour schemes in their fleets, that they could be worked into a Manchester rotation on that day. So you could see some great KLM, Air France, SAS, Luftie schemes in one day. Although I wouldn't hold your breath. Its about time BA had a shorthaul in BEA colours & a longhaul in BOAC colours !
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