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Old 5th May 2013, 18:52
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Man and Ema specialise in different kinds of freight and as most air freight
is actually carried on scheduled pax services dedicated flights are only a small part of the operation.
With Airport City building due to commence and an extension to freight
complex also due to start this year it will grow again

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Old 7th May 2013, 01:24
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Re TCX Las Vegas

Having looked online for flight to Las vegas, nothign as of yet is available beyond October and starting next again following April, also are TCx upping to 3 times a week, with view that Virgin may not return next year on route , which would be a shame, have emailed Thomson, asking if they have any plans to serve Vegas, considering the arrival on the 787. Got a reply telling me to book through the Tailormade brochure, which offers flights , but only with a change, and witha different airline (hardly an answer to my question). Just one other note with with thomas cook , offering 3 flights a week, the only holidays offered are 7 or 14 nights , this year you can book 4, 7 and 10 nights, with the 2 weekly flights this summer. Would seem a bit of a backward step there??.

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Old 7th May 2013, 10:21
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Jet2 have some increases loaded for Summer 2014:

Reus, Barcelona, Dalaman, Las Palmas, Zante, Lanzarote, Bodrum, Rhodes, Kos, Heraklion, Paphos and Corfu all gain 1 extra flight per week.

Tenerife gets 2 extra flights per week

Fuerteventura is new at 2 weekly.

(Tenerife and Dalaman now daily, Barcelona now 6 weekly)

Not all flights are loaded (city flights such as Venice, Prague etc in particular), so time will tell if an extra aircraft to be based or if these 16 extra flights are going to be taken away elsewhere.

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Old 7th May 2013, 11:28
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Anyone know what was happening at Man this morning? No early morning departures or arrivals.
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Old 7th May 2013, 11:45
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What do you mean? Aircraft have been coming and going all day with no major delays?
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Old 7th May 2013, 15:48
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Are you referring to certain flights heading towards PMI? There was fog at PMI causing slot delays here and same with a few to BCN. Those affected only about 2hrs in the end.
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G-ZBAD has been delivered today.

Apparently this aircraft and the other new A321 are to be based in Birmingham this summer?
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Old 7th May 2013, 21:07
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Transavia France to operate MAN-PMI next summer, possibly opening a base.

Flights will be:
TO1956 MAN 0645 PMI 0945
TO1957 PMI 1045 MAN 1230

Fridays starting 7th March and are in GDS systems using B737-800.

Will have a root to see what other flights they have.

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Old 9th May 2013, 13:56
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http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/m...e/April+14.pdf

up 3% with over 1.5 million pax
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Old 9th May 2013, 14:54
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Transavia do indeed appear to be opening a seasonal base at MAN.

In GDS, flights loaded so far:

Las Palmas Mondays
Tenerife Tuesdays
Fuerteventura Wednesdays
Lanzarote Thursdays
Palma Mallorca Saturdays

Cannot find Fri/Sun flights just yet, but 1 B737-800 to be based from November 3rd 2013.

Flight times can be given on request, but no flight numbers are loaded yet, as all but the PMI flights have TO0 as a flight number.
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Old 9th May 2013, 18:05
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you would think that Palma would already be saturated with based carriers.

Still if it survives another good airline for MAN.

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Old 9th May 2013, 20:03
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Palma seems to be a huge market from MAN.

There are no less than 11 flights per day during August, and will only be added to once Condor start and other operators state their capacity intentions for S14.
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Old 9th May 2013, 21:10
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I thought the Condor arrangement was a way of providing charter capacity to TCX - with some of the seats being distributed via GDS. Are you saying it's all incremental capacity to what TCX are offering this summer ?
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Old 9th May 2013, 21:16
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No condor will be selling the flights in their own right.

If it was just extra capacity fir TCX, the flights would have TCX codes, the same way Condor puts its own DE code on the TCX B767's it borrows.

However, all flights operated by the Condor B757-300 will be operated under DE codes and not TCX ones.
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Old 9th May 2013, 21:36
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Thomas Cook and Condor will be integrated into a single airline so I was asking whether the basing of this Condor aircraft actually increasing capacity for the Thomas Cook group at Manchester. Or is it the same number of seats but with some services now being flown on Condor and the rest still with TCX.
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Old 10th May 2013, 07:04
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I think its increasing capacity as the Condor PMI flights do not seem to be similar to any TCX PMI timings this year.
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Old 10th May 2013, 13:18
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Just looking at the schedules for September 2007, the month Air China started.
It makes disturbing reading compared to 2013;

AIR CHINA 3 x weekly
CHINA AIRLINES 3 x weekly
CATHAY PACIFIC 6 x weekly
CATHAY PACIFIC (Dragonair) Daily
JETT8 2 x weekly
GREAT WALL 4 x weekly
FEDEX 4 x weekly

One day alone, Wednesday 5th September saw all seven flights
CCA B-2476
CAL B-18702
CPA B-HVZ
CPA B-KAA
JEA 9V-JEA
GWL B-2429
FDX N594FE.

OK, todays economic situation is a fact but it can't be the whole story.
In 2005/2006/2007 the airport was absolutely buzzing.......Something has/is gone/going wrong???
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Old 10th May 2013, 13:29
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Well Jett8 and Great wall are no longer.

FedEx now base a B757, but, would be great to have the MD11 to MEM back.

Air China and China Airlines. Not sure why they left but it would be great to have them back.

I guess the latter 2 and Cathay are just a by-product of the downturn. Hopefully one day they will be back, but, no point flying round empty freighters if the demand is not there. I hear most of the products the B744's used to ship are now sent by sea.

I suppose we will have to make do with the Lufthansa MD11, FedEx B757/ATR base and Cathay, along with the ad-hoc stuff like Saudi (not sure what their B744 took away from MAN) and China Southern (if they need more pigs) every now and then.
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Old 10th May 2013, 13:39
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Do you want to tell the likes of Stansted and East Midlands about the downturn?
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Old 10th May 2013, 13:51
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It really IS the Economy in this case.

Pure freighters into the UK have declined everywhere including LHR

There EVA and JAL have gone with Singapore and Cathay much reduced as well.

Until we start spending again and that little man from Tatton stops taxing everything that moves the UK will see more of the remaining freight that can't be carried in the bellies of larger craft off loaded in the low countries.

From there transferred by 40 tonne trucks or the ever increasing number of international Freightliner trains into the UK.

In fact I think we might never see the days of multiple pure freighters again.

Additional factor airfreight rates have risen alarmingly in the last few years and many shippers have returned to using waterways for less time critical goods.

Through even that route trends to offload in the low countries for onward shipment because of rates and limited capacity at UK terminals !

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