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Do not know about A3OO/ 310, was always 330 since I started ( approx 2001) flying with them on this route before 777/380 introduced.
Do not know about A3OO/ 310, was always 330 since I started ( approx 2001) flying with them on this route before 777/380 introduced.
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Pleasant & unexpected surprise to see my first 787 depart on 05L this morning from bedroom window.
Very identifiable wing tips & tail I would say noise similar to A388.
Looks a nice bird but will look better in stretched versions.
Very identifiable wing tips & tail I would say noise similar to A388.
Looks a nice bird but will look better in stretched versions.
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I`m not sure about looks, probably better on longer version but looking forward to seeing A350. B787 actually looks quite small when you see it but then it is
about same size as B767
Chaps.
about same size as B767
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The problem with EK 777 is that there is always a chance is J that you get a horrible old seat without lie flat, at least hard product on A380 is guaranteed. (I also prefer new 777 as service levels are better in J).
Not sure what you mean by service levels being better - thought this was mainly a function of the crew and you get good and poor on both types.
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I can't believe how boring the A350 looks. The A330 looks great with a lovely fuselage sweep down from back to front.
The A350 had a completely straight fuselage , basically a straight tube.
They might build them efficient but boy have they ignored any aerodynamic style.. The 787 looks modern at least !
Suppose we all have our own opinion though.
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I can't believe how boring the A350 looks. The A330 looks great with a lovely fuselage sweep down from back to front.
The A350 had a completely straight fuselage , basically a straight tube.
They might build them efficient but boy have they ignored any aerodynamic style.. The 787 looks modern at least !
Suppose we all have our own opinion though.
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The flights did operate using a mix of A310 and A300 aircraft via a European gateway however I think they may have not had traffic rights. I do remember later on the service stopped at ZRH and you could just buy a ticket MAN/ZRH and MAN/DXB and beyond. I think the A330 operation started around 2000.
Most of the long haul carriers going east from MAN stopped in Europe.
Most of the long haul carriers going east from MAN stopped in Europe.
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Comment on service level is based on crew to passenger ratio in that class which favours 777 v 380. 380 is a good plane but it is a personal choice. Have flown Lufthansa and Singapore 380 with no real issues, my early comments were based on service level from crew, and that the bar on EK 380 can get a little loud some times. My choice of eve Man flights is due to my own schedule / preference. I agree totally with all comments re old "Lazy boy" seats on EK older 777, BUT have not had one of these for a while so I am basing comment on "New" 777 re 380. Also I have been doing this for a lot of my working life, and some of the A/C, and seats, do not seem bad in comparison with those flights I have taken in the past. However even older a/c seemed to have better seats. If you are ever at Imperial War Museum Duxford, go and look at economy seats in EX BA VC10 and compare with current BA offering. I know they did not have ICE / Kriss but the actual seat size, and legroom to allow sleep / comfort, is what matters.There, are believe me, only so many films you want to see, and that plane does seem to crawl across the map on the in flight up date map - more so when coming home !!
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Comment on service level is based on crew to passenger ratio in that class which favours 777 v 380. 380 is a good plane but it is a personal choice. Have flown Lufthansa and Singapore 380 with no real issues, my early comments were based on service level from crew, and that the bar on EK 380 can get a little loud some times. My choice of eve Man flights is due to my own schedule / preference. I agree totally with all comments re old "Lazy boy" seats on EK older 777, BUT have not had one of these for a while so I am basing comment on "New" 777 re 380. Also I have been doing this for a lot of my working life, and some of the A/C, and seats, do not seem bad in comparison with those flights I have taken in the past. However even older a/c seemed to have better seats. If you are ever at Imperial War Museum Duxford, go and look at economy seats in EX BA VC10 and compare with current BA offering. I know they did not have ICE / Kriss but the actual seat size, and legroom to allow sleep / comfort, is what matters.There, are believe me, only so many films you want to see, and that plane does seem to crawl across the map on the in flight up date map - more so when coming home !!
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I see that Thai Airways have AGAIN stated Manchester flights are an option to them.
I wonder if they will ever grow some balls and start the route, it has got to be one the longest 'anticipated' service announcement in MAN'S history!
I wonder if they will ever grow some balls and start the route, it has got to be one the longest 'anticipated' service announcement in MAN'S history!
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.....and in the same week JET2 started a couple of new flights albeit to a couple of sun destinations (without any fanfare from the airport).
.....and Qatar used the Dreamliner on Doha services a brilliant opportunity to indicate the airlines faith in Manchester, it was at least heartening to see the airport getting its priorities right and redressing the balance with some robust marketing by promoting Virgin Holiday Manchester to New York to its 60,000 followers via Twitter.
"Hang on we don't have a DIRECT flight to New York with Virgin !"
"Must be a code share, oh that's Delta and they go to Atlanta !"
"It must be a new service which is great, but wait has there been an announcement surely they are not suggesting people fly via Heathrow on a Virgin Shuttle are they ?
Am I missing something here ?
Charlie Cornish CEO 1st NOV The Business Desk
"we will soon launch a 'Fly Manchester' campaign targeted at those four million people a year who use Heathrow each year".
This is complete and utter bloody madness, who on earth is managing this output when we have a direct flight with UNITED !
The route development manager is addressing a local group of spotters next month, can I please beg somebody to ask what the hell is going on ...
...idiots, complete idiots !
.....and Qatar used the Dreamliner on Doha services a brilliant opportunity to indicate the airlines faith in Manchester, it was at least heartening to see the airport getting its priorities right and redressing the balance with some robust marketing by promoting Virgin Holiday Manchester to New York to its 60,000 followers via Twitter.
"Hang on we don't have a DIRECT flight to New York with Virgin !"
"Must be a code share, oh that's Delta and they go to Atlanta !"
"It must be a new service which is great, but wait has there been an announcement surely they are not suggesting people fly via Heathrow on a Virgin Shuttle are they ?
Am I missing something here ?
Charlie Cornish CEO 1st NOV The Business Desk
"we will soon launch a 'Fly Manchester' campaign targeted at those four million people a year who use Heathrow each year".
This is complete and utter bloody madness, who on earth is managing this output when we have a direct flight with UNITED !
The route development manager is addressing a local group of spotters next month, can I please beg somebody to ask what the hell is going on ...
...idiots, complete idiots !
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You can understand Qatar not advertising the B787. It was in to test the facilities at MAN so no point advertising for just 2 round trips that were close to sold out and on the chance you may have to swap back to the A330 or B777 at the last minute.
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You can also add to that - the B788 with 254 seats has less seats than most of the other two class long haul aircraft in QR fleet. QR is nowadays showing a decline in passengers at MAN so maybe the B788 is a better match to serve MAN.
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The 'decline' at MAN is mainly attributes to the cut in frequency, overall load factor is still good. They don't put the larger A330-300 and B777-300 to please spotters.
The 'decline' at MAN is mainly attributes to the cut in frequency, overall load factor is still good. They don't put the larger A330-300 and B777-300 to please spotters.
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LAX_LHR, did the egg or laying hen come first? Since the capacity was reduced, was it because aircraft were needed for destinations where they can earn more money than at MAN or was it because the demand at MAN has gone down?
Bagso, if we look at the CAA provisional April domestic report the number of passengers between MAN an LHR grew with 3258 passengers (+5.0%) to 68 406 passenger. The split between BA and Little Red I don't know, but I know the number of passengers that flew with BA between MAN and London's two largest airports went down with at least 11 740 passengers in April.
Bagso, if we look at the CAA provisional April domestic report the number of passengers between MAN an LHR grew with 3258 passengers (+5.0%) to 68 406 passenger. The split between BA and Little Red I don't know, but I know the number of passengers that flew with BA between MAN and London's two largest airports went down with at least 11 740 passengers in April.