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Old 1st Mar 2013, 08:03
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MAN pax growth

A look at the CAA Provisional statistics for January shows MAN as just about the only UK airport posting any significant growth in passenger traffic right now. 3.2% month on month and still 4.4% over the rolling year. Most others are at best flat for the month and several with serious decline. Significantly, the main lo-co competitor, Liverpool. MAN's aircraft movements are down though. Given that seat capacity for Winter 2012/3 was only up by 1.2% it must indicate higher load factors, which I am assuming will be better for airline profitablility as long as they are not dumping the seats at rock bottom fares. Shame about LH Berlin but overall LH still have a big presence, although many appear now as German Wings. No big route announcements for this summer but hopefully the steady growth back through 20 million pax p.a. can be achieved.
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No big route announcements for this summer but hopefully the steady growth back through 20 million pax p.a. can be achieved.
Depends what you mean by 'big'?

-Ryanair from 4 to 6 based aircraft
-Easyjet from 6 to 8 aircraft, with 8 new routes including Moscow
-Jet2 up by 1 based aircraft with 3 new routes
-Egyptair 5 weekly to Cairo
-Virgin 4 daily to Heathrow
-Aegean 2 weekly to Athens
-AA re-upgrade Chicago to B767
-Delta upgrade to A330
-Plenty of Turkey charters from Freebird, Pegasus and Onur Air
-Flybe increase a couple of routes
-Finnair to use more A319's on Helsinki
-Turkish increase to 2 daily (both flights see larger B737-900's too)
-Norwegian 2 weekly Stavanger
-SAS increase Olso and Copenhagen flights
-TAP to increase LIS to 10 weekly with larger aircraft
-Aer Lingus regional 2 daily to DUB (making EI 5 daily)
-Waterford flights on flybe should be announced next week.

Not pax related but still good news:
-Cathay Pacific to use larger B747-800F on flights

Routes cut are:
-Lufthansa to Berlin
-Ryanair to Hahn, Memminghem and Biarritz

So, whilst there are no 'big' announcements, plenty of 'small' ones to keep the ball rolling upwards!

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Tunisair to add a weekly flight to Enfidha on behalf of Just Sunshine Holidays:

TU4946 NBE 1305 MAN 1705
TU4947 MAN 1750 NBE 2100

Saturdays using A320

This makes Tunisair at MAN 3 weekly, with the 2 Tunis flights continuing into the summer.
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Not pax related but still good news:
-Cathay Pacific to use larger B747-800F on flights
Shame all the flts are cancelled until 13th March though!

expect the 747-8F on the 17th, unless it's cancelled of course.

Shame LHR has a 5th (yes 5th) pax flt as that means no equipment available for a MAN pax flt, which was very imminent apparently!
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Shame all the flts are cancelled until 13th March though!
Yes, seems a very quiet period, although good to see it goes back to 4 weekly at the end of the month.
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LGW service

Rumour is that Norwegian will be starting MAN-LGW. What a shame, if this comes true.
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I'd love to see Norwegian start MAN-LGW, but I just don't see it happening personally.

Free WiFi would knock the socks off BA for London/Manchester O&D traffic though. One of the single biggest complaints of customers on BA is lack of WiFi, free or paid.
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Norweigen are the wrong airline and a 738 is the wrong aircraft for MAN-LGW sadly! Best options for the route are (IMHO) Flybe ~4 daily E195/175 or Easyjet 3/4 daily A319. Longer shots would be Virgin 3 daily A319 or BA re-instating the route at some point on the A319, which has a few less seats than the 734's and I would imagine, a slightly lower fuel burn however they would need around 4 daily flights including an overnighter @ MAN to keep the route attractive to those wishing to connect @ LGW and also business pax.
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Free WiFi would knock the socks off BA for London/Manchester O&D traffic though. One of the single biggest complaints of customers on BA is lack of WiFi, free or paid.
Maybe I'm just unlucky, but in the many times I've flown Norwegian, whether it be UK, Norway or Finland I've never had a 'good' WiFi experience. It's a good novelty item to have and passes time as you spend 99% of your flight hopelessly refreshing stuff hoping it has the power to refresh a page, which it rarely does
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I was having chat with Man & BA staff Friday. They can't understand why BA is pulling LGW as they say the loads are good. I would say we were about 70%. I jus hope somebody does pick up soon as going to be a bit knackered.
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The yield are c**p. Never winced once when I have booked it and they are very cheap in comparison with the equivalent LHR, where cheap seats are rare due to high numbers of connecting passengers. LGW now has a fraction of the connections it used to have remember. Also LGW long haul is built around a point to point operation, any connections are an added bonus. BA have dropped ABZ, NCL, INV and IOM in recent years, MAN is just the latest as the business model changes and losses come down. Will GLA and EDI remain I wonder?

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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 18:55
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Are there really not enough passengers from the MAN catchment who want to connect at LGW then?

If you need to connect to a BA longhaul flight to the Caribbean one is stuffed.
Drive down early morning or an overnight stay after flying to LHR.

Its buggered up my holiday plans.
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BA has made a commercial decision that those in the Manchester area are not needed to support the Caribbean operation.

The inconveniences of alternative travel arrangements don't come into it.

Better look elsewhere or if the Caribbean is must you've got Barbados on VS beach fleet, Cuba The Dominican Republic and Montego Bay DIRECT from Manchester with Antigua and Saint Lucia from December albeit mainly on Charters.
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Charters that offer equivalent if not superior service levels than BA for less money and avoiding the inconvenience of transiting LHR or LGW without a direct service. I know which I'd choose!

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February pax up 1.43%

http://www.manchesterairport.co.uk/manweb.nsf/alldocs/0793E969975D4F0580257B260055D796/$File/February+13.pdf

You might need to type (copy & paste) the about link into your address bar if it does not open.

With transits 1,203,075 +1.43% - rolling year 19,724,560

ATM's 11083 down 4.86%

Freight down 7.84%

Obviously in real terms the % increase is higher due to one less day in February 2013.

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Taken from Planemad site
Terminal pax up 1.46%, despite 1 day less than last year. An extra 17,200 pax.
Feb'13 averaged 42,559 pax per day vs 40,489 in Feb'12.
This equates to an increase in the daily rate of 5.1%.


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Originally Posted by spannersatcx
expect the 747-8F on the 17th, unless it's cancelled of course.
you guessed it, it's cancelled. Is the writing on the wall for CX at MAN? It's looking that way!
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Aside from the cargo matter. I'd like to think CX have totted up the number of pax from MAN that travel to HKG daily, not via BA/CX but by QR, EK, LH, LX, TK, KL, AF.

Despite Manchesters' huge Chinese population, I'm afraid Spanners is right, CX have little or no interest in MAN . Displayed by their 5th daily rotation from LHR.

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i posted the comment below in 2007 and i still stand by my comment



i'm with you on that spannersatcx you will never see a CX passenger flight in MAN if ever they like to play down at LHR if they do come to MAN i will eat my hat whilst i do a jig up taxiway delta ontop of a tug

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Unhappy

To be fair the 5th flt at LHR was a 'gift' from Air New Zealand so no choice in the slot, I think it's within 10 mins of one of the other CX flts so not ideal. Plus the 7000 pax that were already booked with ANZ, so a win/win (as they like it).
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