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Old 26th Aug 2012, 10:17
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Interesting piece on another forum that the owners of Manchester in the 90s argued against expansion of Stansted as this would stop new airlines serving Manchester.

How times have changed with MAG now bidding for Stansted...how odd ?

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Old 26th Aug 2012, 16:26
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Interesting piece on another forum that the owners of Manchester in the 90s argued against expansion of Stansted as this would stop new airlines serving Manchester.

How times have changed with MAG now bidding for Stansted...how odd ?
As you say times have changed. In those days the low cost revolution was yet to happen, the BAA had a monopoly of all the London airports and many bilaterals with other countries said London - not Manchester or other regional airports. All this has now changed.

STN was being touted as the airport that would solve all London's capacity problems. MA feared that all intercontinental route expansion into the UK would be funneled in there if and when LHR and LGW got full.

BAA neglected STN eventually to concentrate on the cash cow that is LHR when they recognised the strength of opposition against any further expansion. (You could argue that the same applies to LGW having seen the way the new owners have re-vitalised it and attracted new airlines.)

Meanwhile Manchester Airport has morphed first into MAG operating a number of airports and has now evolved into M.A.G Airport Management and Services with the approval of the shareholding local councils.

Whether this means the Management Team will take the eye off the ball at MAN if they acquire STN remains to be seen. It certainly seemed to happen when EMA and BOH were acquired but the management team now are virtually all different.

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Old 26th Aug 2012, 19:17
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STN was propped up by BAA, no doubt from profits made at full fare airport LHR.

With that sort of money now going to dry up, I wonder what MAN sees in owning a mostly low cost airport. Business reports suggest it might cost the new owners over 1 billion to buy.

Low cost airports don't make much money, repeated attempts by full fare airlines to succeed at STN have mostly failed ,as business travellers just don't want to commute their it seems.

Will the cargo revenue at STN deliver enough cash to make MAN venture worth while ?

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Old 27th Aug 2012, 15:19
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brussels airlines W12 Manchester Operation Changes | Airline Route – Worldwide Airline Route Updates

Larger aircraft on one of the daily flights.
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Old 27th Aug 2012, 17:19
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Larger aircraft on one of the daily flights.
No doubt a response to FlyBe pulling off the route next month.
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Old 28th Aug 2012, 00:36
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Easyjet on the increase 7 aircraft from March 2013 with promise of more
EasyJet to create 120 jobs as it steps up its presence at Manchester Airport | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk


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Old 28th Aug 2012, 10:27
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Ryanair has announced a new route linking Manchester to Gdansk, twice weekly from Nov. 1st.
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Old 28th Aug 2012, 12:15
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Heard they are starting Riga as well.
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Old 28th Aug 2012, 12:25
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Preempting the rumoured Wizz announcement?
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Old 28th Aug 2012, 14:32
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Riga is on sale also but the 4 weekly Paris BVA + W from BVA have being dropped.

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Old 29th Aug 2012, 13:27
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manairporspotter -

For info, if you click on the drop-down list of forums, the one immediately below this one [AA&R] is called "Spectators Balcony". In there, enthusiasts are encouraged to discuss all aspects of aircraft spotting and it is the forum which other likeminded readers visit to search out such information. Here in the AA&R forum, discussion is generally steered towards the operational issues affecting the specific airport or airline under discussion. Spotting topics will upset some regulars on AA&R and risk eventually arousing the anger of the mods. I'm not having a go at you - this is friendly advice. Take a look at "spectators Balcony" ... I'm sure your contributions will be appreciated there.

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Old 29th Aug 2012, 14:49
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Does anyone know how MAN-IAD is doing? I remember reading before the route started that ticket sales were poor, then I read they had exceeded expectations and it was being upgraded and then I read it was being cut to x5 weekly during the winter. I was just curious as to how the route was faring.
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Old 29th Aug 2012, 15:08
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Winter 2012/3 & IAD

Some more changes

American Airlines Jan/Feb 2013 Trans-Atlantic Routine Service Reductions | Airline Route Worldwide Airline Route Updates

Slight reduction for MAN-ORD in the New Year

US Airways W12 Trans-Atlantic Operation Changes as of 29AUG12 | Airline Route Worldwide Airline Route Updates

A few less seats on the US Air MAN-PHL

Ryanair Manchester - Dublin on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday in winter reduced to double daily in line with other UK - Dublin routes. Friday-Sunday 3 or 4 daily.

Washington

Bums on seats are not too bad - June 9197 pax & July 8537 per CAA. Yields, no idea.

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Old 30th Aug 2012, 09:03
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MAN-MAD

The previously announced chop for MAN-MAD with Ryanair seems to be reversed.
Now appears bookable 4 x weekly until end of March 2013.

Assume the IB & EZY MADs remain cut.
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Re Washington just short of 150 per flight is pretty good, I am told fares have been quite high so presume doing OK

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Old 30th Aug 2012, 14:04
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Anyone know how the BE MAN-NQY route is doing ?

It would be nice to see this service get back to daily, 4 weekly isn't great considering it previously was multiple rotations daily under SZ.


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Old 30th Aug 2012, 19:53
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Guessing easyJet's 8th based aircraft is on the cards - EDI's getting 2 more aircraft but creating fewer jobs than what easyJet said about the MAN expansion so they are probably just delaying news on this extra one!?
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Old 30th Aug 2012, 20:20
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Apologies for cross posting, but saw this comment on another forum regarding EasyJet:

An interesting conversation over a ridiculously expensive Costa coffee this morning in Terminal 3 gave me a list of possible routes Easy have pinned for MAN in the near future.

Arrecife (ACE)
Faro (FAO)
Fuerteventura (FUE)
Hurgharda (HRG)
Ibiza (IBZ) summer only
Larnaca (LCA)
Mykonos (JMK) summer only
Nice (NCE)
Reykyavik (KEF)
Venice (VCE)
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Old 31st Aug 2012, 14:09
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That list would seem to contradict Ms McCalls wish to attract more business pax. By & large it is leisure destination list.

For more business pax I'd of thought LGW, ABZ, VIE, ZRH, SVO & upped freq on AMS, SXF would / should be on the list.
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Old 31st Aug 2012, 21:31
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Heard on this thread a couple of months ago that Zurich may be coming back.

Also read on the Edinburgh thread about te EasyJet expansion there too and I saw somebody posting about a MAN-EDI route.
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