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I suppose the idea is to cover the outbound markets to the east and south of Milan that are not as conveniently covered by the airports of Verona, Genoa and Bologna - stuff like Bergamo proper, Monza, Brescia, Piacenza, Cremona (have in mind that there is no Lufthansa hub feed to Munich from Linate).
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Whilst musing about new routes, I hope BM can work the ones they have.
This evening's BRS-HAM was consolidated into BRS-DUS, apparently not for the first time in recent times. It's an irritation that pax paying premium prices shouldn't have to expect.
The call centre didn't know about the consolidation until I called them at about 16h00 to ask why BM1837 had shown cancelled in Google Flights. Similarly there was no explanation given for the consolidation.
The delay was about 1 hour for all pax, which is an irritation rather than a disaster.
This evening's BRS-HAM was consolidated into BRS-DUS, apparently not for the first time in recent times. It's an irritation that pax paying premium prices shouldn't have to expect.
The call centre didn't know about the consolidation until I called them at about 16h00 to ask why BM1837 had shown cancelled in Google Flights. Similarly there was no explanation given for the consolidation.
The delay was about 1 hour for all pax, which is an irritation rather than a disaster.
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Follow up: Passengers from DUS and HAM arrived back in BRS 2-3 hours late.
Also the evening rotation BRS-FRA-BRS was delayed 90 minutes, which is not good when it's a connection into evening flights from FRA to Asia.
These operational wobbles seem to have been happening for a while.
Also the evening rotation BRS-FRA-BRS was delayed 90 minutes, which is not good when it's a connection into evening flights from FRA to Asia.
These operational wobbles seem to have been happening for a while.
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Maybe you could pop a request over to Embraer and ask them to ensure that they always supply windscreens that don't delaminate in future so that these 'operational wobbles' can be avoided?
A combined operation to protect all passengers was decided as the way forward which I appreciate may have caused some irritation but it was thought better to move ALL pax today instead of cancelling either the DUS or the HAM and really annoying the 50 or so that wouldn't have had a flight at all...
Maybe you could pop a request over to Embraer and ask them to ensure that they always supply windscreens that don't delaminate in future so that these 'operational wobbles' can be avoided?
A combined operation to protect all passengers was decided as the way forward which I appreciate may have caused some irritation but it was thought better to move ALL pax today instead of cancelling either the DUS or the HAM and really annoying the 50 or so that wouldn't have had a flight at all...
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I don't disagree that it was a workable solution to ensure that everyone got to their destinations, albeit it late. I know that irrops happen.
My observations are that communication in this instance didn't get to front line staff as well as it could have, and that generally there seems to be an increasing number of operational issues which are affecting reliability, which could be down to there being insufficient slack to take up problems.
I support BM. I choose BM over going to LHR, even though sometimes the fares/schedules are less attractive. I'm also conscious that not all passengers are as committed to BM, so letting them down has an affect on reputation quite quickly.
Thank you for the background. It's possible that sharing that with the 50-60 passengers affected would have helped them understand why they were being re-routed and delayed, and made the experience less frustrating.
My observations are that communication in this instance didn't get to front line staff as well as it could have, and that generally there seems to be an increasing number of operational issues which are affecting reliability, which could be down to there being insufficient slack to take up problems.
I support BM. I choose BM over going to LHR, even though sometimes the fares/schedules are less attractive. I'm also conscious that not all passengers are as committed to BM, so letting them down has an affect on reputation quite quickly.
Thank you for the background. It's possible that sharing that with the 50-60 passengers affected would have helped them understand why they were being re-routed and delayed, and made the experience less frustrating.
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BM1838 HAM-BRS is delayed this evening, currently by 30 minutes.
According to FlightRadar24, the aircraft working the flight (G-RJXG), arrived Aberdeen on BM1364 from EBJ at 13:18 (early, against STA of 13:30), but was then put onto BM1314 to NWI, which was originally scheduled to depart at 12:55, but actually departed at 14:01, causing a knock-on delay for the rest of the day (NWI-ABZ-BRS-HAM-BRS)
It's probably connected to the aircraft going tech yesterday, and the ops team doing the best with a reduced fleet.
According to FlightRadar24, the aircraft working the flight (G-RJXG), arrived Aberdeen on BM1364 from EBJ at 13:18 (early, against STA of 13:30), but was then put onto BM1314 to NWI, which was originally scheduled to depart at 12:55, but actually departed at 14:01, causing a knock-on delay for the rest of the day (NWI-ABZ-BRS-HAM-BRS)
It's probably connected to the aircraft going tech yesterday, and the ops team doing the best with a reduced fleet.
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bmi 'actively considering’ replacing quarter of fleet with larger craft
A report in today's Telegraph (UK)
That's quite a bold move for an airline with ~50% LF.
I'm assuming the plan is to put bigger aircraft on the routes with more growth potential if the fares can be lowered substantially. That's not a bad strategy, but I wonder if it suggests a direction of travel away from being a niche/business/"full service" airline into the fray of LCC activity? If you can't fill an ER-145 BRS-MUC at £300-£400 r/t, then don't fares have to drop to fill a 319?
Last time bmi tried to be an LCC, it didn't play out well with the high yield business customers, and the activity got wound back. (link, link) (Admittedly, out of LHR on competed routes like DUB/EDI/GLA). Maybe a better execution will work out more successfully.
I'd love to see bmi A319's working out of BRS, but not if that growth puts the airline at risk of survival.
That's quite a bold move for an airline with ~50% LF.
I'm assuming the plan is to put bigger aircraft on the routes with more growth potential if the fares can be lowered substantially. That's not a bad strategy, but I wonder if it suggests a direction of travel away from being a niche/business/"full service" airline into the fray of LCC activity? If you can't fill an ER-145 BRS-MUC at £300-£400 r/t, then don't fares have to drop to fill a 319?
Last time bmi tried to be an LCC, it didn't play out well with the high yield business customers, and the activity got wound back. (link, link) (Admittedly, out of LHR on competed routes like DUB/EDI/GLA). Maybe a better execution will work out more successfully.
I'd love to see bmi A319's working out of BRS, but not if that growth puts the airline at risk of survival.
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The same airline spokesman was saying the same thing in April of last year, with the larger aircraft expected to be introduced within 18 months from then.
bmi regional in market for larger aircraft :: Routesonline
Then in June of last year the group's CEO repeated the intention saying that 'demand on some routes, such as Bristol to Germany, is such that slightly larger aircraft seating 70 to 100 will soon be necessary'. They would hope to be introducing some of the larger aircraft within the next 12-18 months from that time.
Big interview: Peter Simpson, chief of Airline Investments Limited - The Scotsman
BRS website showing BRS-ABZ-BRS cancelled this morning. I think that the BRS-HAM-BRS rotation was cancelled last night.
Fingers crossed that the airline can deal with the issues that are causing these difficulties because it provides much-needed links between smaller airports such as BRS and larger hubs on the continent like FRA and MUC.
bmi regional in market for larger aircraft :: Routesonline
Then in June of last year the group's CEO repeated the intention saying that 'demand on some routes, such as Bristol to Germany, is such that slightly larger aircraft seating 70 to 100 will soon be necessary'. They would hope to be introducing some of the larger aircraft within the next 12-18 months from that time.
Big interview: Peter Simpson, chief of Airline Investments Limited - The Scotsman
BRS website showing BRS-ABZ-BRS cancelled this morning. I think that the BRS-HAM-BRS rotation was cancelled last night.
Fingers crossed that the airline can deal with the issues that are causing these difficulties because it provides much-needed links between smaller airports such as BRS and larger hubs on the continent like FRA and MUC.
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It's been pointed to me that wishing 319's is thinking a bit too big, and it's more likely to be Emby 175s.
I wonder if the two aircraft due from Hop! have arrived yet? If not, maybe BM is just over committed in the short term (although it won't be helping with their reputation).
I wonder if the two aircraft due from Hop! have arrived yet? If not, maybe BM is just over committed in the short term (although it won't be helping with their reputation).
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Jethro shows one arrived on 24 May and the other due this month.
Jethro also shows an Austrian registered ERJ170 leased from People's Viennaline from 17 May, which replaced a French registered E145. I don't know what that's all about.
Jethro also shows an Austrian registered ERJ170 leased from People's Viennaline from 17 May, which replaced a French registered E145. I don't know what that's all about.
Jethro also shows an Austrian registered ERJ170 leased from People's Viennaline from 17 May, which replaced a French registered E145. I don't know what that's all about.
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Cello
BMIR have been using Cello again, Aberdeen to Norwich and back yesterday and then BHX to Graz and Nuremburg today.
The Cello 146 is 46 seats so it makes sense to use it if available and costs permits.
Pete
The Cello 146 is 46 seats so it makes sense to use it if available and costs permits.
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It does appear that bmiregional have a niche on thin routes, where Airbus 319 or greater in size could not sustain a viable service. Any move to aircraft that either cost significantly more or have higher operating costs is dangerous territory to get into. Though no doubt an embraer 145s will have high unit operating costs. Putting the likes of 319s into play immediately invites others in e.g. easyjet. Though 175 with the right cost equation could work...
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Just at BRS now. The FRA flight (BM1827) has been cancelled. I'm assuming the FRA pax have been transferred to the MUC flight, which was due out at 17:10 and hasn't finished boarding yet. The return (BM1828) is also cancelled.
The BRU flight (SN2058) is delayed an hour due to late departure from BRU. (The aircraft seems to have been on the ground at BRU since yesterday morning).
The BRU flight (SN2058) is delayed an hour due to late departure from BRU. (The aircraft seems to have been on the ground at BRU since yesterday morning).
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The morning BRS-FRA-BRS rotations (BM1821 and BM1822) are cancelled on Thursdays from next week (w/c 18th June 2017), through until start of the winter timetable (w/c 30th October 2017).
Annoyingly, as I needed to use that morning flight in July.
Annoyingly, as I needed to use that morning flight in July.
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Yesterday saw two leased aircraft operating on behalf of BM. The aircraft were:
1 x ER4 from Aero4M (F-HRAV), this aircraft also operated on Sunday for BM.
1 x E70 from People's Viennaline (OE-LMK)
Even with the extra leased aircraft BM cancelled 3 round trips yesterday
BM1316/BM1317 ABZ-NWI-ABZ
BM1501/BA1502 LDY-STN-LDY
BM1741/BM1742 MUC-BGY-MUC
They have also already cancelled this mornings MUC-SOU-MUC service.
Is the leasing of aircraft, cancellations and delays just bad luck, or is it poor operational planning or staff shortage?
1 x ER4 from Aero4M (F-HRAV), this aircraft also operated on Sunday for BM.
1 x E70 from People's Viennaline (OE-LMK)
Even with the extra leased aircraft BM cancelled 3 round trips yesterday
BM1316/BM1317 ABZ-NWI-ABZ
BM1501/BA1502 LDY-STN-LDY
BM1741/BM1742 MUC-BGY-MUC
They have also already cancelled this mornings MUC-SOU-MUC service.
Is the leasing of aircraft, cancellations and delays just bad luck, or is it poor operational planning or staff shortage?