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Old 13th Jun 2017, 20:14
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Originally Posted by cuthere
The shambles is they're being *PAID* to operate LDY-STN, and whilst aircraft do go tech, to not have one available at all is utter incompetence.
As far as I know there has only been 1x cancellation on this route?

At all other times BM has provided a sub, so there is an aircraft available.
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Old 13th Jun 2017, 20:54
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One cancellation, but many other sectors that have been heavily delayed. Further, when you pay for the much advertised jet service, you don't want to turn up to find a rather old ATR42 waiting for your journey to Stansted. They knew they had every chance of gaining the LDY-STN PSO, but seem to have had real problems in providing the service they promised. Hopefully when they get their new aircraft this will all stop.
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Old 14th Jun 2017, 07:36
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It does seem like they're over-committed. I hope they get that resolved quickly, because the strips of red appearing on the depatures boards every time I'm at BRS can't be helping their reputation.

I've a bunch of people arriving into BRS in July from all over Europe, and it'll be embarrassing if they're delayed and disrupted. (Having pursuaded them not to fly into LHR).
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Old 14th Jun 2017, 16:00
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Originally Posted by cuthere
One cancellation, but many other sectors that have been heavily delayed. Further, when you pay for the much advertised jet service, you don't want to turn up to find a rather old ATR42 waiting for your journey to Stansted. They knew they had every chance of gaining the LDY-STN PSO, but seem to have had real problems in providing the service they promised. Hopefully when they get their new aircraft this will all stop.
G-CKAF seems to be the based aircraft now.

Yet to hear of any reason for the early morning canx as the evenning one left no hassle.

What i have noticed is the flights are dep on time from LDY yet are getting held up in STN. Any particular reason this may happen?
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Old 14th Jun 2017, 16:52
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Small operators into large airports tend to get delayed. And I know BMIr aren't particularly small but in terms of STN they are

Flybe suffer similar delays at STN and LGW where they only operate 1 route, I guess they aren't seen as a priority for ground handling etc


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Old 15th Jun 2017, 07:41
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Sat on -XI at BRU, waiting to dep SN2055 to BRS, and the APU has failed. Engines can't be started without it, so additional ground power is being brought in, and engineer coming over to look at it.
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Old 15th Jun 2017, 07:56
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Originally Posted by Bristol_Traveller
Sat on -XI at BRU, waiting to dep SN2055 to BRS, and the APU has failed. Engines can't be started without it, so additional ground power is being brought in, and engineer coming over to look at it.
So what? APUs fail every day, thus resulting on GPU being required. Sh1t happens!
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Old 15th Jun 2017, 08:53
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Rectifying the APU fault, getting the paperwork done and getting a new departure slot created a 90 minute delay to push back. The captain has been great at keeping us informed, and crew handing out cold water.

I know it's unavoidable that aircraft go tech. It seems to be happening more on BM at the moment than I've experienced previously or on other airlines, creating delays to flights. (The mid-morning BRS-BRU is likely to be delayed as a result of this too).
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Old 20th Jun 2017, 18:30
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I notice that bmir are selling one-wary tickets for Birmingham-Graz for a minimum of £290 one way or £336 for Graz-Birmingham. A return booked well in advance is priced as the sum of two singles and seems to start around £600

Is the route about to be cancelled or has someone decided they don't really want anyone on the plane besides Jaguar employees ?

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Old 20th Jun 2017, 19:10
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
I notice that bmir are selling one-wary tickets for Birmingham-Graz for a minimum of £290 one way or £336 for Graz-Birmingham. A return booked well in advance is priced as the sum of two singles and seems to start around £600

Is the route about to be cancelled or has someone decided they don't really want anyone on the plane besides Jaguar employees ?
Since JLR are underwriting the route, perhaps they are paying to keep "rif-raf" off the flight so their employees can work or relax in peace.

I guess their fares on BHX-NUE and BHX-GOT are somewhat more reasonable.
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Old 20th Jun 2017, 19:24
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Rif-raf ? Me ?
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Old 20th Jun 2017, 19:35
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It's a flight from Birmingham to Graz on a regional jet - how much do you think it should cost?

I'm getting old...
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Old 20th Jun 2017, 19:57
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Depends what days you travel. The "non-JLR" days mean you can get a return of £203 all-in. That's not too bad!
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Tartin - forgive me if I'm being stupid, but I can't see anything at £203 all-in return on non-stop bmi regional flights - can you point me to where I can find it please ?
I can see fares below £200 on KLM with a stop in Amsterdam in each direction, but the nerd in me wants the BHX-GRZ non-stop flight
As a comparable, BHX-GOT costs £89 one way if booked 3 weeks in advance. Granted this is only 75% of the distance of BHX-GRZ, so if we pretend costs are proportional to distance flown basis, BHX-GRZ would cost maybe £120 one way when booked sufficiently far in advance

I realise that a 2-hour RJ flight has to come at a price, but it seems puzzling that whether one books 24 hours ahead or almost 6 months in advance, the fare should begin at £300 one-way or £600 return.

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Old 20th Jun 2017, 20:41
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I can see fares below £200 on KLM with a stop in Amsterdam in each direction, but the nerd in me wants the BHX-GRZ non-stop flight
Exactly - what you're paying for is the convenience of flying non-stop - time is money.
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Old 20th Jun 2017, 20:43
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DJ, I tried a couple of random dates on their website travelling Fri-Mon ex BHX from 21Jul onwards and it was pretty much available every week
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Old 20th Jun 2017, 21:41
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To make sure the good is recognised as much as the not good, today's BRS-MUC was punctual and well loaded. The ideal flight experience.

(Tbf, I used the deserted Fast Track security at BRS rather than the surprisingly chaotic main security, but that's not a BM thing).
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Old 21st Jun 2017, 07:37
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
Rif-raf ? Me ?
Certainly not! I'm sure you'll be travelling in your suit, tie and bowler hat (make sure you don't take your steel-tipped umbrella as that'll probably need to go into the hold!). Don't forget your rolled up copy of "The Times" too!
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Old 22nd Jun 2017, 12:01
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
Tartin - forgive me if I'm being stupid, but I can't see anything at £203 all-in return on non-stop bmi regional flights - can you point me to where I can find it please ?
I can see fares below £200 on KLM with a stop in Amsterdam in each direction, but the nerd in me wants the BHX-GRZ non-stop flight
As a comparable, BHX-GOT costs £89 one way if booked 3 weeks in advance. Granted this is only 75% of the distance of BHX-GRZ, so if we pretend costs are proportional to distance flown basis, BHX-GRZ would cost maybe £120 one way when booked sufficiently far in advance

I realise that a 2-hour RJ flight has to come at a price, but it seems puzzling that whether one books 24 hours ahead or almost 6 months in advance, the fare should begin at £300 one-way or £600 return.
At a guess, it will be because JLR will block book on this route on every flight. Even 6 months out they will have their allocation which will push up the fares for normal paying customers.
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Old 22nd Jun 2017, 15:08
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It is probably the same concept as on BRE-TLS. Most seats are taken up by EADS/Airbus and the rest goes on sale to the public. Or like Sun Air's GOT-CBG route when it was still open to the public. More or less a corporate shuttle with some seats for the public.
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