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Old 17th May 2017, 14:33
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Leased ER4 replaced with a leased E70 (OE-LMK) on the LDY route. Does anyone know what the loads have been like on the LDY-STN route?
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Old 17th May 2017, 14:48
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Loads have been high, with quite a few full flights. Hardly surprising when you consider FR used to fill 2x737-8s on the route at peak times.
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Old 17th May 2017, 16:24
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The only truly surprising thing is that it turned into a PSA route, which to me suggests market failure!
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Old 22nd May 2017, 13:23
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Another week and another lease for the STN-LDY route with a ATR42 (F-GVZJ) replacing the E170. Does anyone know how long BM are planning to have to lease aircraft for to cover this route?.
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Old 22nd May 2017, 15:41
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Haven't they acquired two more E-Jets for the fleet to be delivered soon ?


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Old 22nd May 2017, 17:01
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Fleet or crewing issues it seems. Have seen Blue Islands ATR operating a few BM flights from BRS recently.
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Old 22nd May 2017, 17:15
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Haven't they acquired two more E-Jets for the fleet to be delivered soon ?


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Yes, one due end of May, the other later in June... ex- HOP!
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Old 22nd May 2017, 18:10
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bmir used a Maleth-Aero B 737-300 on BRS-CDG-BRS last Friday and a week or two ago a Cello Bae 146-200 was used on a BRS rotation.
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Old 22nd May 2017, 22:08
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I hope BM are careful with their fleet and crewing.

Their flights must be dominated by business travellers able to justify the relatively high fares for the point-to-point routes, and people connecting into long-haul at FRA/MUC. Letting those people down seems to be disproportionately risky for their reputation and repeat bookings.

I've had a couple of business contacts flying into meet me in BRS have their flights disrupted (sometimes due to WX, so that's just one of those things), and it makes them wary of rebooking.
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Old 22nd May 2017, 23:51
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It appears that only one aircraft didn't operate yesterday.

The aircraft in question is G-RJXB last flew on 17th May from BRU-BRS. Is this aircraft out of service due tech. Or due scheduled C-check?.

If that is the case then I guess that these leases are less to do with crew shortage and more to do with not having enough aircraft to cover the operation when one is out of use.
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Old 23rd May 2017, 13:22
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Originally Posted by BAladdy View Post
Another week and another lease for the STN-LDY route with a ATR42 (F-GVZJ) replacing the E170. Does anyone know how long BM are planning to have to lease aircraft for to cover this route?.
BMI aircraft to position in tonight
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Old 24th May 2017, 19:18
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Originally Posted by BAladdy View Post
It appears that only one aircraft didn't operate yesterday.

The aircraft in question is G-RJXB last flew on 17th May from BRU-BRS. Is this aircraft out of service due tech. Or due scheduled C-check?.

If that is the case then I guess that these leases are less to do with crew shortage and more to do with not having enough aircraft to cover the operation when one is out of use.
I believe XB is on C Check.
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Old 26th May 2017, 16:38
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Some PAX figures of March:

BRE - TLS 17 PAX
DUS - BRS 20 PAX
FRA - BRS 23 PAX
HAM - BRS 24 PAX
MUC - BGY 14 PAX
MUC - BRS 27 PAX
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Old 26th May 2017, 19:30
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What are your figures supposed to represent Xavi22? It's not clear.
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Old 27th May 2017, 23:23
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I think that's referring to average passengers per flight on those routes. Those numbers reflect my experiences.

Most flights are at about 50% load factor. BRS-FRA is low because it's 34 flights a week, with nearly all pax connecting into LH. This is the one I'd worry about, because I expect LH don't pay BM much for the connection.

The others probably stand up commercially when you look at the fares. I'm doing BRS-HAM r/t next week and it's costing 420. A colleague did FRA-BRS r/t in a day and it cost 625. Those kind of fares, even at 50% LF, probably sustain the routes.

(The BRE-TLS has to be primarily Airbus at corp rates, so I suspect MUC-BGY is the real worry, as that's also an LH feeder).

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Old 28th May 2017, 11:23
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bmi regional route churn slowing down but adding new routes from Birmingham

The above link relates to an article published in February about bmi regional on a well-known aviation analyst's website.

It confirms that in the years 2012-2016 the airline's annual load factors were in the range 53.7% to 54.6% except for 2013 when it dropped to 49.1%. June and July enjoy the highest loads.

As B_T points out, fares are usually high.
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Old 28th May 2017, 12:22
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SOU-MUC averaged 24 pax per flight, so based on the above info you would hope that is a sign it is performing reasonably well! Works out as 48% load on an E145, but some flights are usually on the E135, so the actual loads will be a little higher.

Be good to see them try SOU-FRA as well.
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Old 28th May 2017, 19:17
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Originally Posted by Bristol_Traveller View Post
I think that's referring to average passengers per flight on those routes. Those numbers reflect my experiences.

Most flights are at about 50% load factor. BRS-FRA is low because it's 34 flights a week, with nearly all pax connecting into LH. This is the one I'd worry about, because I expect LH don't pay BM much for the connection.

The others probably stand up commercially when you look at the fares. I'm doing BRS-HAM r/t next week and it's costing 420. A colleague did FRA-BRS r/t in a day and it cost 625. Those kind of fares, even at 50% LF, probably sustain the routes.

(The BRE-TLS has to be primarily Airbus at corp rates, so I suspect MUC-BGY is the real worry, as that's also an LH feeder).
Correct, average PAX per flight on those routes in March.
Just worried about the load factor on Munich - Milano-Bergamo.
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Old 29th May 2017, 13:24
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MUC-BGY has been tried over and over again and it has always resulted in a disaster for the airline willing to give it a go.
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Old 29th May 2017, 17:23
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Why you'd need 2 x BGY-MUC alongside 6 x MXP-MUC is a mystery. There must be a reason for LH to be supporting that route.

I still feel that BRS-ZRH would be viable - both point to point and as a codeshare into LXs network.
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