BMI REGIONAL-2

[Bristol_Traveller]

Originally Posted by BAladdy

Just noticed that BM have a new look website. Designed by the digital marketing agency ebow.

The new design is much better (it's actually designed for a start) but the coding is very shaky. It feels like it hasn't been tested on enough browsers and devices. The rendering on Chrome on Android is so inconsistent, it wasn't actually possible to book a flight. (Could be one of these Apple/Safari only operations).

[BAladdy]

Does anyone know if BM have crew bases at both EMA and NCL?.

[MJR]

Yes they do at both

[BAladdy]

Could this be the first AIL joint co-operation route. With a BM ER4 operating a BE route under the Loganair Franchise agreement

Flybe extend Newcastle to London Stansted service

[NOP]

Originally Posted by BAladdy

Could this be the first AIL joint co-operation route. With a BM ER4 operating a BE route under the Loganair Franchise agreement

Flybe extend Newcastle to London Stansted service

BM seem to be operating a good few ACMI's for BE since AIL was announced, could be the start of many?

[Rumour_Jay]

I believe that BMR are also running ACMI for flybe today out of IOM.

[Bristol_Traveller]

I can see why this makes sense. It felt like BM was trying hard to find things for the ERJ frames to be doing, leading them into some very thin route choices. Using them to support the Loganair franchise is probably more profitable.

That suggests that the existing BM route network might thin down again, but also begs the question - if/when they merge the two operations, which brand will survive? (My money is on BM, but I've been wrong too often to put actual cash on it).

[jijpc]

G-RJXE only operated one flight from the IOM today, this being the 06.30 flight to Manchester. It was covering for the VLM F50 that Flybe have on lease until the end of September, which went tech yesterday but has returned this afternoon.

[GLAEDI]

Originally Posted by Bristol_Traveller

I can see why this makes sense. It felt like BM was trying hard to find things for the ERJ frames to be doing, leading them into some very thin route choices. Using them to support the Loganair franchise is probably more profitable.

That suggests that the existing BM route network might thin down again, but also begs the question - if/when they merge the two operations, which brand will survive? (My money is on BM, but I've been wrong too often to put actual cash on it).

The problem is the Loganair name is so famous in Scotland, no one up here ever think it's Flybe that goes to the Isles it's Loganair. Loganair survived being part Manx, Airlines of Britain & British Midland. Also BM Regional doesn't really fit the profitable part of the business as it's a long way away from the Midlands! I believe the Loganair name will survive (although on the little writing on the door on most planes "operated by Loganair") on its famous H&I routes, the BM regional name will disappear from the aircraft and the aircraft painted in LH, SAS & SN colours depending on route & codeshares again with small text on the door (op by BM regional). Though I would suggest the majority will get Albino colours.

[Rumour_Jay]

Looks like they flew 2x live ACMI sectors for flybe today:

BRS-IOM (empty)
IOM-MAN (pax)
MAN-AMS (pax)
AMS-BRS (empty)

[Rumour_Jay]

Heard on the grape vine that there is talk of the Aberdeen office possibly being relocated.
Anyone heard anything regarding this?

[BAladdy]

Sparrow Aviation are to replace the BM ER4 currently used to operate it's services with a F50 from 26OCT15

BM currently operate flights from KID-ARN and KID-KLR-TXL on behalf of Sparrow Aviation

[EK77WNCL]

Frees up an A/C for 2 daily NCL-FRA-NCL... It could do the same as the current based frame and operate for Flybe in the middle of the day, maybe NCL-BHD-NCL

I can dream, I'd love to be in charge just for one day

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by EK77WNCL

Frees up an A/C for 2 daily NCL-FRA-NCL... It could do the same as the current based frame and operate for Flybe in the middle of the day, maybe NCL-BHD-NCL

I can dream, I'd love to be in charge just for one day

If BMI Regional were a member of Star Alliance this makes perfect sense - unfortunately they are not.

[GrahamK]

They do codeshare with a number of Star Alliance airlines though, including SN and LH.
But the costs of operating an ER4 into FRA would probably be too high to make it viable

[nighthawk117]

While BMI may not be a Star Alliance member, they do offer a lot of feeder flights on behalf of Star Alliance members. NCL-FRA-NCL is perfectly possible, and fits nicely with their current business model.

[davidjohnson6]

GrahamK - bmir operate an ER4 from Karlstad / Jonkoping in Sweden to Frankfurt...

BAladdy - a little off topic but are Sparrow going to operate their own F50 or lease in from some other airline ?

[BAladdy]

BAladdy - a little off topic but are Sparrow going to operate their own F50 or lease in from some other airline ?

I believe the Swedish carrier Amapola Flyg will be operating on behalf of of Sparrow. The carrier operates a fleet of 15 F50's. Of which 13 are freighters.

The two non freighter F50's are SE-LEZ and SE-LIO. SE-LEZ is currently leased to the Italian carrier Air Vallee.

[EK77WNCL]

Bristol - Frankfurt is operated with a BMIR ERJ-145 and is bookable on the lufthansa website under codeshare. It's like Lufthansa operating the route without them having to bother themselves in actually doing it, essentially a few free passengers on their connecting flights every day... I can see numerous benefits in my suggestion, as BAladdy said it's pretty much the perfect route for their business model. Added to that the fact that increasing star presence at NCL can't be bad and may hopefully help UA down the line.

What is the story behind BMR/LOG, are they to remain as separate entities in a menage a trois with Flybe?

[BAladdy]

Just noticed that BM's NCL-BRU is showing as being operated by a ER3 13 x weekly for W15, with flights on a Wednesday and Thursday being operated 3 x daily. I was under the impression that BM were going to use the aircraft used on the BRU service to also operate the NCL-STN on behalf of BE?.

This isn't possible based on the current BRU schedule. Also the STN is being operated by a ER4 and not a ER3.

Surely BM are not going to base a second aircraft at NCL just to operate the STN service.