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Old 5th Jan 2016, 08:23
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Does anyone actually know if there is to be an announcement this week or are we all just picking up where we left of last year with more speculation and rumour?
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 10:15
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FR press conference

Julian O'Neill of the BBC tweeting that there is a FR press conference on Thursday morning. He is speculating that it is Aldegrove but nothing confirmed. Obviously things being kept very tight as to which airport.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 10:58
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Press conference is in central Belfast on Thursday so could be either airport but surely it would be a huge mistake to go back to City. Nothing has changed and the constraints would be the same.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 11:03
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It is Aldergrove and the routes Gatwick obviously, with EMA NCL and LBA to follow. Brussels and Barcelona and Berlin from Winter 16.
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It is Aldergrove and the routes Gatwick obviously, with EMA NCL and LBA to follow. Brussels and Barcelona and Berlin from Winter 16.
Have you just looked at BFS route maps and wish list and concluded those will be the routes as if so you would be mistaking thinking such a network would be profitable and sustainable!

What makes BFS different from every single other airport served in Ireland and the UK...
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 13:16
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EMA and LBA I can understand...NCL I don't follow since EZY are already on that route? I suppose the other possible one might be CWL if the new CWL management as as keen as we're led to believe about encouraging Ryanair to grow their operations there
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More comment here

http://www.irishnews.com/business/20...routes-372819/
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If it is EMA, LBA, NCL, BRU and BCN, together with loosing the LGW route this will be a tough call for BHD...

EMA and LBA completely conceivable as these were previous BFS routes, though frequency would be interesting on 738's..
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 17:46
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Yeah great for the traveling public. We will land up with 1-2 flights a day to EMA and LBA if BE pull off. I hope they stand their ground. SN might not necessarily budge as they have interlining facilities at BRU but VY aren't exactly flourishing at BHD as it is. All that said we only know of LGW thus far so we shall see. Also I don't think FR will have more than 3 daily rotations to LGW given the amount of slots surrendered by IAG. Interesting times....
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3x daily is still an additional 1134 seats a day to LGW from BFS. I'd love to know what EZY make of this.
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Did you wonder how BA etc felt when Ezy started pushing them out? Why don't you ask Ezy, I'm sure they will respond to you.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 18:20
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Originally Posted by sarcon
It is Aldergrove and the routes Gatwick obviously, with EMA NCL and LBA to follow. Brussels and Barcelona and Berlin from Winter 16.
Will it be Brussels or the Charleroi? Barcelona or Gerona? Maybe even Reus?

Ryanair to me = the worse customer service I have ever encountered. The fact it was over a Christmas period made it even worse. And before anyone says it, you get what you pay for isn't even justified in this case in my opinion. They have never seen another penny of my cash since that sorry episode just over 7 years ago and I don't intend to change that.

I can't see what they have to offer if they are going to serve the same routes already are mostly available from the Belfast area. Apart from the racket that is "Belfast" - "London" most air fares from here aren't so high that cometition will make them much cheaper.

What is any annoucement likely to mean for Easyjet? Do Easyjet earn enough at BFS to make it worth the fight with RYR? Or, could they stick two fingers up at the airport, say bye bye and easily make money elsewhere with the airframes used to serve BFS?
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 18:47
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So cuthere, you could hazard that 5 of the FR routes from BFS will be STN, LPL, GLA, FAO and ALC!!

And as for EGAC is Better, well - there'll be Balance in ur comments...
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I was in the process of looking at a few city breaks for Mrs Pan to visit family but think I'll wait for a few weeks. Looks like a price war may be on the horizon for Gatwick flights!

The press conference may well be in Belfast but I would be utterly amazed if it isn't Aldergrove. The interesting part for me will not necessarily be the reaction from FlyBe but rather the reaction from Easy, will they compete and lose profits or split operations to Harbour - interesting times ahead. I was in Aldergrove a few weeks ago collecting the inlaws and the arrivals board was EZY from top to bottom.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 19:14
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True Blue. Are you really comparing BA's one route to LHR with the expected arrival of FR and their up to five routes?

Also, by your previous "logic" BA only moved 12 miles away. What's the big deal? Did YOU ask BA? Or just blather on about what sods they and EI are for daring to leave BFS?

Think about comparing apples with pears, and also contradicting your own (broken, repetitive) arguments.

Cozy. You're answering a question I haven't asked.

Still. If FR eventually add BRS, with better frequency and timings than EZY currently offer, then I'll be happy
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 19:29
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It's it totally out of the question that ops could be from both Belfast Airports?
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So is it the case that FR were not coming to belfast any time soon until the LGW slots appeared on the table? Would BFS really put offers on the table for routes already operated out of there, especially by EZY? I remember all the hype the last time at BHD before the announcement. Will it be Copenhagen? Brussels?.... it ended up something like EMA, PWK....... They didn't jump on BHD/STN until Air Berlin vacated a short while later, was the delay by BHD or FR?
BFS are doing okay at the moment and wouldn't take a big hit if FR were to start up at BHD 'again' with all the contstraints there. So I would be surprised if BFS allow FR to 'bulldoze' there way in. A more measured approach by BFS would be prudent me thinks.
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Still. If FR eventually add BRS, with better frequency and timings than EZY currently offer, then I'll be happy

Cuthere, you must be getting excited as you forgot to finish the sentence with a full stop. The moderators aint going to be happy with your example.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 20:16
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There - their

Get that one right and I'll be happy! The moderaters make the rules Westbrit, not me. I just hate to see the constant abuse of the English language. If that makes me a bad person, then so be it!

Joking aside, and back to aviation, a very measured and entirely accurate (previous) post.
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Old 5th Jan 2016, 20:18
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Still. If FR eventually add BRS, with better frequency and timings than EZY currently offer, then I'll be happy
You will probably remember that Ryanair operated BHD-BRS in 2009 and 2010 against easyJet's BFS-BRS. In 2010 easyJet carried over 150,000 passengers and Ryanair nearly 120,000; Ryanair pulled out in October that year when they axed all their flights from BHD.

Flybe gave it a go for a couple of years on BHD-BRS immediately after the Ryanair pull-out but didn't seem able to compete with easyJet and gave it up in 2012.

Although the latter has been increasing its passenger numbers each year since 2010 on BFS-BRS your feelings about frequency and timings resonate with others. In 2014 Belfast-Bristol in the form of easyJet's BFS route was still 40,000 less than the joint Ryanair/easyJet total of 2010, a time when the economy was not as buoyant as now.

Ryanair competes with easyJet at BRS on seven sun routes and is about to compete on Krakow from the coming spring so perhaps going head to head out of BFS is not entirely out of the question.
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