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Old 12th Jan 2016, 10:17
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Does anyone have a copy of the article by Brian Ambrose in todays Belfast Telegraph?
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Old 12th Jan 2016, 10:45
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Ryanairs app is still very new. It was only until recently you had to pay a few euro for something that looked like it was a junior school project. EasyJets has always been free and has always been of a better quality. If FRs app is made by the same people who made the original pay for app then I can't imagine the support being great.

According to iTunes the easyJet app is rated 4/5 stars, the Ryanair one rated 2/5 stars. The easyJet app has also won numerous awards. And with easyJet a free of charge boarding pass will always be issued at the airport if the app were to break. I wouldn't be so confident of the same happening if I turned up for a FR flight and said my app didn't work so I don't have a boarding card.

Commuted every week for two years using the app. Had literally one or two niggles. Nothing that has warranted contacting support.

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Old 12th Jan 2016, 10:49
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This one Elle?

We?re flying high, insists airport boss, but it?s now or never for cutting air passenger tax in Northern Ireland - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
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Old 12th Jan 2016, 16:16
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That's the one. Thank you Mart901.
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Old 12th Jan 2016, 16:42
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Interesting article above!


Intrigued about the point on BFS focusing as a low cost airport.


Think in a place like NI where most folk know the value of a fiver, that's most likely the best way to appeal to everyone!?


Presume the city airport are only planning to attract the naubs then, who'll continue to dispense common folks taxes on regular pampering at £100s on hour long flights to London? Long may that last..


Mind, I suspect they will also be made welcome at BFS when they're paying their own fare and looking for a sensible price on easy or Ryanair?
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Old 12th Jan 2016, 16:51
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What airline is doing these flights for Thomson Lakes and Mountains? Appears to be a Verona Airport base plane?

Going out
Belfast (Aldergrove) to Verona
Dep: Sat 9 Jul 2016, 15:35
Arr: Sat 9 Jul 2016, 19:20

Coming back
Verona to Belfast (Aldergrove)
Dep: Sat 16 Jul 2016, 13:00
Arr: Sat 16 Jul 2016, 14:45
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Old 12th Jan 2016, 17:13
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A very interesting article indeed from Mr A, I wonder is there an outward appearance of indifference to Ryanair but in reality a scratching of heads behind the scenes trying to work out how to cope with such aggressive competition?

Looking at the Ryanair timetable, that alone would prevent them from operating at Harbour this time round. You can't deny their pricing structure is impressive, I have booked several return flights already for around £40, compare that to Easy for the same dates and similar times you can add £100 to that! Only a fool would say that Ryanair won't massively shake up the fares and competing airlines at both of our main airports.

It will be fascinating to watch how this unfolds over the next year, will Ryanair simply p*ss off Easy and others and then fly into the sunset when another airport offers a better deal leaving Aldergrove dealing with very disgruntled airlines. Will Ryanair and Easy fight it out, who will blink first? £40 return fares can't be sustainable in the long term by anyone!

I totally appreciate Easy, Flybe etc are all offering a perceived superior customer experience but if I'm paying £40 then I expect very little, my train into London will be a similar price!
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Old 12th Jan 2016, 17:30
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I dont think Ryanair will need to be so aggressive after they get established or until the traveling public know they are here, the capacity on the London route overall is not going to grow significantly, simply replacing the Aer Lingus service and adding a bit on and easyJet will likely put 319 onto all flights I'd guess. Moreover, Aer Lingus downgrading the LGW route to 319 (Street brief spell with 320), was capacity lost, that is being put back into place.

All that said in terms of a London service, and prob more related to BHD, I'm wondering what will an AerLingus base with 1 aircraft in Winter look like.. Seems odd!
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Old 12th Jan 2016, 22:13
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Perhaps the continuing success of BHD is that, as quoted in the BT article, Mr Ambrose has surrounded himself with a smart management team. Mr Keddie at BFS on the other hand has had to make do with, well maybe a few are well past their sell by date.
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Old 13th Jan 2016, 01:42
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Perhaps you are right, but you have to agree that BFS have had a pretty successful year too, even before the FR announcement, new routes, new operators, increased pax and increased profits.
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Old 13th Jan 2016, 16:15
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Perhaps the continuing success of BHD is that, as quoted in the BT article, Mr Ambrose has surrounded himself with a smart management team. Mr Keddie at BFS on the other hand has had to make do with, well maybe a few are well past their sell by date.
Have you met any other management at Harbour? I don't think qualifications are the deciding factor, more who they know!

I heard that the last MD from Harbour took a few of his handpicked lieutenants with him when he jumped ship to Aldergrove, I wonder were they involved with the "Aer Lingus contract on a fag packet" shambles that made the news some time ago? Having said that I agree that BFS management appear to be a little better organised than they have demonstrated previously.
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Old 13th Jan 2016, 20:40
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Interesting panpanpanpan you've paid £40 to LGW and will pay about £40 on the train. Next week I'm going BHD - LCY for £80. It's £3 to tower gateway by my hotel and I'm free of stress and better off timewise by at least an hour. Also I don't think EZY will flinch. They are so entrenched in the NI market, and very able to hold their own. FR have always charged higher to LGW than other LON airports and I think it will land up the case on the BFS route if they are ever to make profit.
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Old 13th Jan 2016, 21:03
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If I could get a £40 flight to LGW I would pre book the normal train to London Bridge and the a few stops on underground to destination. Much cheaper than Gatwick express and takes approximately the same time
PS you can now use Oyster cards from Gatwick as well

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Old 13th Jan 2016, 21:32
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Prebook a train GAZMO? A risk in England. Miss that prebooked train and you're paying full, on the day price for the next train. Good luck.
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Old 14th Jan 2016, 06:38
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So, Viewing Gallery has been closed for an indefinite period to 'facilitate' upgrades to the Business Lounge. Congratulations on making the majority of your customers feel second-grade, BIA. Obviously we're just a hindrance to your precious corporate demographic.

But sure, put a smiley face on your Twitter post. That'll keep me amused waiting for a couple of hours in your bleak shopping-mall-terminal.
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Old 14th Jan 2016, 09:00
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So, Viewing Gallery has been closed for an indefinite period to 'facilitate' upgrades to the Business Lounge.


Maybe they are getting it ready for a return by British Airways!!


The last time I travelled through BFS was November. I wanted to take the kids up to the gallery, but was told that access was not available once you are airside.

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Old 14th Jan 2016, 10:49
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West Brit. Glad to read you're making an effort. Shame your posts are still garbage. How many times does Willy Walsh have to say BA are committed to BHD before it sinks in?
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Old 14th Jan 2016, 11:19
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How many times does Willie Walsh have to say anything.....

Willie Walsh rules out Aer Lingus bid | Business | The Guardian

Things change, don't rule anything out.
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Old 14th Jan 2016, 11:26
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Originally Posted by El Bunto
So, Viewing Gallery has been closed for an indefinite period to 'facilitate' upgrades to the Business Lounge. Congratulations on making the majority of your customers feel second-grade, BIA. Obviously we're just a hindrance to your precious corporate demographic.

But sure, put a smiley face on your Twitter post. That'll keep me amused waiting for a couple of hours in your bleak shopping-mall-terminal.
Or maybe they are doing the work via a landside bubble and the gallery would not be safe to use while they set up for and carry out the work?

But sure why think of all aspects of the situation when you can make massive assumptions and do a bit of slagging.... ;-)
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Old 14th Jan 2016, 14:08
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West Brit. Glad to read you're making an effort. Shame your posts are still garbage. How many times does Willy Walsh have to say BA are committed to BHD before it sinks in?

Oh dear and so the Americanisation (don't care if spelt wrong) of the original English language continues. You are a little naïve to suggest that high profile people don't 'change their mind'. I thought that living in NI would acquaint one with how whimsical homo sapiens actually are.
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