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I'm assuming then QR plans to launch BHX with the 787? They are supposed to be getting x5 by the end of the year so I guess it's possible, I know the first one is scheduled to operate to LHR and a second was rumoured for MAN but I'm not sure if that was ever confirmed. Fingers crossed!
Also worth noting that BA/BMI have axed Heathrow-Yerevan from October, a route I was surprised to read has been operating since 1997. If Armavia do launch BHX I hope they take full advantage of this gap in the UK-Armenia market.
Also worth noting that BA/BMI have axed Heathrow-Yerevan from October, a route I was surprised to read has been operating since 1997. If Armavia do launch BHX I hope they take full advantage of this gap in the UK-Armenia market.
No chance of EK's 380 coming in now!! Well done to QR. Hope the crews enjoy the turnaround. Hope there will be an increase in ME traffic and that EK's numbers are not watered down.
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Good news 'if' it happens.
Qatar have been talking about flights to BHX for many years.
This would be ideal for a daily 787 to start with.
As for EK? Hmm crewmeal I wouldn't be so sure. Didn't EK throw an A380 on the MAN route when Qatar started from there to counteract?
A little competition would be no harm, so both will try to outdo each other with fares and service products. 787 v 777 or 787 v 380? Good for customers and BHX!
Qatar have been talking about flights to BHX for many years.
This would be ideal for a daily 787 to start with.
As for EK? Hmm crewmeal I wouldn't be so sure. Didn't EK throw an A380 on the MAN route when Qatar started from there to counteract?
A little competition would be no harm, so both will try to outdo each other with fares and service products. 787 v 777 or 787 v 380? Good for customers and BHX!
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I wonder what kind of timings they'd be thinking off? An AM departure would certainly have an advantage over EK but what kind of connections would that offer? Would ATQ be viable?
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Amritsar departs at 0700 from Doha and arrives back 15.40 so to connect it would have to be an evening departure from BHX and I can't believe it if they don't link the two at least three to four times a week out of the seven.
I think some patience might be required as Helsinki hit the press in November and even the QR website by November and I still can't find any flights bookable.
I know aircraft availability has been a major problem for Qatar though, which combined with the falling EK figures has made this a surprise.
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I can't comment on the EK 380 but certainly they reacted to Qatar going double daily at Manchester by announcing the third daily and hence all the problems since with empty seats at Manchester and BHX.
However things have improved at Manchester and even EK managed to get load factors above 70% in June (low season) at BHX.
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Winter Frankfurt now loaded as 06.10 departure as a LH 733 back at 22.15
In between a 733 early morning, 319 midday and a 735 in the evening but I realise that this could change.
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Amritsar departs at 0700 from Doha and arrives back 15.40 so to connect it would have to be an evening departure from BHX and I can't believe it if they don't link the two at least three to four times a week out of the seven.
I think some patience might be required as Helsinki hit the press in November and even the QR website by November and I still can't find any flights bookable.
I know aircraft availability has been a major problem for Qatar though, which combined with the falling EK figures has made this a surprise.
splash&dash
I can't comment on the EK 380 but certainly they reacted to Qatar going double daily at Manchester by announcing the third daily and hence all the problems since with empty seats at Manchester and BHX.
However things have improved at Manchester and even EK managed to get load factors above 70% in June (low season) at BHX.
Lufthansa
Winter Frankfurt now loaded as 06.10 departure as a LH 733 back at 22.15
In between a 733 early morning, 319 midday and a 735 in the evening but I realise that this could change.
Pete
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QR started at MAN around April 2003 (doubled 2011). EY started in March 2006 (doubled 2011) EK's A380s started September 2010 after going double daily in June 2003, with the 3rd flight in 2011.
The expectation is that MAN will be restored to double daily.
What QR did at MAN when they 1st went to daily was a split operation of 3 morning services and 4 afternoon services. I'm tempted to think they may do the same at BHX - just depends how it all ties in with the connecting wave in Doha.
The expectation is that MAN will be restored to double daily.
What QR did at MAN when they 1st went to daily was a split operation of 3 morning services and 4 afternoon services. I'm tempted to think they may do the same at BHX - just depends how it all ties in with the connecting wave in Doha.
There are plenty of opportunities to fly to the Far East from Doha with excellent services to cities in China and Australia. Perhaps QR may invest in BHX before someone else does, especially with the lengthening of the runway. QR are not fools when it comes to planning and have invested well in the UK in the past. Now might be a good time to expand into the regions. if it fails they can always pull off the route like they did at LGW.
I find that again BHX management have failed in marketing routes. What exactly do these people do in their ivory towers? It's not the sort of statement they should admit to the world. The statement should read something like "We welcome Qatar to the Midlands and we are working to form a partnership that will benefit both the airline and customers"
A Birmingham airport spokesman appeared surprised at the news, but said: “We welcome the announcement by the Qatar Airways chief executive of services between Doha and Birmingham.”
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Fabulous news if this happens but as other have said caution and patience is needed as QR have revealed destination plans before (including BHX) and they have not come off. I would not at all be surprised by EDI though (that has been rumoured for ages now).
As an aside, this is something I don't understand. I am looking to go away in Oct half term and checked out both NCE and BCN. These both finish with ZB the Sat half term starts.......I then remembered that FR are starting BCN, only to find that this doesn't start till 7th Nov. One way fares on legacy carriers are horrendous. Happily FCO and VCE are possible though so thats where I may go. I know that both routes were seasonal anyway but wonder why are both airlines missing out on half term traffic on these routes? First week of Nov seems very strange for FR to be starting new routes.
As an aside, this is something I don't understand. I am looking to go away in Oct half term and checked out both NCE and BCN. These both finish with ZB the Sat half term starts.......I then remembered that FR are starting BCN, only to find that this doesn't start till 7th Nov. One way fares on legacy carriers are horrendous. Happily FCO and VCE are possible though so thats where I may go. I know that both routes were seasonal anyway but wonder why are both airlines missing out on half term traffic on these routes? First week of Nov seems very strange for FR to be starting new routes.
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Still no news from BHX....
Rather strange that a full 24 hours after QR announced BHX - Doha there is still no news/confirmation on the official BHX website. Still flagging up four new routes for RYR and SAS to Stockholm.
I would have thought this was news the airport would have shouted from the rooftops. Is the media unit at the aiport all on holiday?
I would have thought this was news the airport would have shouted from the rooftops. Is the media unit at the aiport all on holiday?
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The reason why it's not on the airport website is it hasn't been officially announced, its just been mentioned as one of their new routes. No date stated so we will just have to wait and see
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Taken from the Armavia web site... now saying 3 times a week ...!!
2012-07-19
Discover UK with Armavia. Direct flight Yerevan –Birmingham starting on 25th July 2012.
Starting from 25th July 2012 Armavia launches direct regular flight Yerevan – Birmingham – Yerevan 3 times a week.
The flight makes good connections on the following directions:
- Birmingham – Yerevan – Amritsar
- Amritsar – Yerevan – Birmingham
2012-07-19
Discover UK with Armavia. Direct flight Yerevan –Birmingham starting on 25th July 2012.
Starting from 25th July 2012 Armavia launches direct regular flight Yerevan – Birmingham – Yerevan 3 times a week.
The flight makes good connections on the following directions:
- Birmingham – Yerevan – Amritsar
- Amritsar – Yerevan – Birmingham
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I find that again BHX management have failed in marketing routes. What exactly do these people do in their ivory towers? It's not the sort of statement they should admit to the world. The statement should read something like "We welcome Qatar to the Midlands and we are working to form a partnership that will benefit both the airline and customers"
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Great news. If the pricing is right I will certainly use them for my trips to South East Asia. I flew QR out of CDG earlier this year and was very impressed with the C class product and service. Only drawbacks were the time from plane to terminal at Doha and how crowded the C class lounge was (even more so than the Emirates lounge at DXB). Hopefully these will both be sorted out when the new airport opens in December.
EK will have to up their game considerably to compete. The regular delays are unacceptable and the pricing can be very uncompetitive.
EK will have to up their game considerably to compete. The regular delays are unacceptable and the pricing can be very uncompetitive.
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Although I am glad that BHX has secured another international airline and a new route to Yerevan by the Armenian flag carrier Armavia can some explain why they chose BHX as their UK destination rather then a London airport, is their any particular reeason for this as I would be interested to know!
I got quite excited when I saw this update from Armavia linking BHX and AMM.
Armavia Starts Amman / Birmingham Service in S12 | Airline Route
Sadly the timings are well and truly useless.
Armavia Starts Amman / Birmingham Service in S12 | Airline Route
Sadly the timings are well and truly useless.
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Interesting that on the Qatar route destinations it has Edinburgh, Belfast and Aberdeen on the map although no connections as of yet. Surely they are not the three new cities QR are referring too?!