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Old 4th Aug 2010, 11:20
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Ryanair are launching a very exciting new route Stansted - Plovdiv, initially twice weekly from November 02.
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Not sure a Bulgarian skiing route will work given Ryanair charge £40 each way to carry skis.
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Well hopefully it will also promote other forms of tourism in the area, as there really is a lot to do and see around Plovdiv.
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there really is a lot to do and see around Plovdiv
Although I do remember an interesting old town in Plovdiv and the Valley of Roses nearby (been there many years ago), it's still virtually unknown place for Western Europeans. Probably that's why it will commence with just two flights a week.

That's a good example of how extremely prudent Ryanair became in launching its new routes. Even if Plovdiv isn't a famous place for Britons, one should take into account thousands of Bulgarians working in UK and elsewhere in EU. Twice weekly? Too cautiously perhaps?
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There are also a lot of very good day trips a short drive away from plovdiv, such as to the Bachkovo monastry, Asen's fortress, devil's throat cave, wonder bridges and ancient ruins, but I reckon this route is mainly targeted at those owning properties in the ski resorts.
A new terminal was opened a year ago at PDV and currently only used by a few british and russian ski charters, so there'd be good facilities for Ryanair to expand there if they decide to.

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News : Ryanair?s Traffic Grows 13% in July to a Record 7.6m

7.61 Million in the month and up 13% on what was a good July last year.
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A very interesting incident in Spain. Yesterday FR told the media about the press conference to happen today at noon in Bilbao to announce "new Ryanair routes" to this Basque airport. Just two hours later the company cancelled the presentation. Total confusion, phones ringing, nobody knew what was happening, is Ryanair coming or not. Reversing the decisions or just a time-out please?
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Perhaps Spanish press conference tied in with ATC issues featuring on their 'news' section recently.

Re. July traffic, as per, how can you include an approximate figure (up to 1.45million) of passengers then simultaneously boast about your statistics? More to the point, LF is down, which I thought was the true key to Ryanair's success?
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7.61 Million in the month and up 13% on what was a good July last year.
On the other hand they had 12% of the seats unsold in July, the highest percentage for July since 2003.

Also they face a 300 million euro increase in fuel costs for the year. The revenue from extra passengers over the year will just about cover the extra costs.
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Old 5th Aug 2010, 10:20
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new route announcements

... from November 2010

5 New Madrid routes
  • Ancona ... 3pw
  • Ibiza ... Daily
  • Krakow ... 3pw
  • Oujda (Morocco) ... 2pw
  • Stockholm Skavsta ... 3pw

7 New Rome Ciampino routes
  • Bari ... Daily
  • Fez ... 3pw
  • Gothenburg ... 3pw
  • London (Gatwick) ... Daily
  • Marrakesh ... 3pw
  • Marseille ... 3pw
  • Tenerife ... 2pw
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Ryanair

So Ryanair continue to grow while others fall or at least stand still.
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Grrr

An interesting fact. At one particular airport, the Ryanair passenger spend in the terminal is 1/20th of that using another low cost airline.

Balance that fact with the knowledge that the recipient airport only takes a percentage of that spend from the retailers.

If that airport has granted Ryanair certain concessions on landing fees, parking charges etc, how then can they make any money from having Ryanair operating from their airports unless the throughput is in the 'millions' of pax per annum?

No wonder airports need Ryanair less that they need the airports!

No doubt Ryanair will be grounding more planes in the UK this winter (for repainting).

Good luck to the airports paying Ryanair for the privilege of using their runways!

Fantastic management Ryanair has, undoubtedly the best in the business - bar none!
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On the other hand they had 12% of the seats unsold in July, the highest percentage for July since 2003.

Also they face a 300 million euro increase in fuel costs for the year. The revenue from extra passengers over the year will just about cover the extra costs.
2 months ago you were saying it was the increase in average fares that would enable them to pay the extra €300 million now its the massive increase in passenger numbers

Afterall you stated that their success previously was based on BA being on strike where as in July BA wasn't on strike yet the BA numbers were down

Ryanair have added 4.8 Million passengers over and above same period last year in the 7 months to July.

The drop in from 89% to 88% over same period last year in actual fact means 1 less ticket sold per flight per day. Somehow I doubt its that much of a concern.
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taking another 300 million euros just to cover extra fuel costs is important. That needs about 7-8 million extra pax or a significant 4-5 euro extra revenue per pax. Ryanair is not going to have it easy and in the winter months the higher fares will make filling the planes harder.

Also get the maths correct 1% of 737-800 is 1.8 people. If repeated monthly am average 1% drop takes about 28 million euros off the income. Pax pay very different prices and the effect will be a lot more if its the late bookers who are flying less.
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taking another 300 million euros just to cover extra fuel costs is important. That needs about 7-8 million extra pax or a significant 4-5 euro extra revenue per pax. Ryanair is not going to have it easy and in the winter months the higher fares will make filling the planes harder.

Also get the maths correct 1% of 737-800 is 1.8 people. If repeated monthly am average 1% drop takes about 28 million euros off the income. Pax pay very different prices and the effect will be a lot more if its the late bookers who are flying less.
Dear oh dear you just keep making up the numbers to show how they are doomed its like a latter day Dad's Army.

Lets see Average fares are rising / Passenger numbers are rising / Average non ticket revenue is rising but still they are doomed according to your analysyis.

If you did the analysis of Easy / BA and all the others mentioned on this forum it may be comparable but strangely you never do. This alone kinda highlights an agenda which each and every time predicts doom with fictional items all the time.
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Also get the maths correct 1% of 737-800 is 1.8 people.
7,610,000 / .88% is 8647727 available seats divide by 189 is 45,755 approx total flights in July

Adding 45,755 to 7,610,000 and dividing by available seats gets you 88.52% which to 0 decimal places is 89%..................think will stick with my Math as yet to find 1.8 passengers.
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The way you calaculated it could be repeated for 2 seats per plane and get very close to a one percent change in load factor.

one percent of 189 seats is 1.89 seats. We have no idea if the 88% and 89% are 87.6% and 89.4% or 88.4% and 88.6%. Ryanair keep reducing the detail of data suppled. in 2007 they told us the exact number of seats sold.

I guess someone know exactlly the number of sectors and can work out an exact load factor.
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No doubt Ryanair will be grounding more planes in the UK this winter (for repainting).
Repainting? Maybe new livery?
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Old 9th Aug 2010, 13:12
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London Stansted - Plovdiv

Will tbe route start in November. A letter of protest may be going to the European Commission over the new route.

Bulgarian airlines complain about Ryanair’s privileged position on the local market - FOCUS Information Agency

Bulgaria Air mulls official protest over Ryanair 'privileges' - Business - The Sofia Echo
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Old 9th Aug 2010, 14:45
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London Stansted - Plovdiv
Will the route start in November. A letter of protest may be going to the European Commission over the new route.
Very likely it will start as planned. There were many such a protests before, some of them still pending - I don't think it ever had much influence on MOL so far. To mention a few, there were similar cases (concerning the unlawful State Aid and similar) at AHO, AAR, SXF, BTS, CRL, HHN, LBC, PUF, TMP, most recently Riga as well. At least one of them (CRL) dismissed by the European Commission by now.

In contrary, FR tends to abandon the apts trying to discontinue their marketing support. If my suspicions are right, it might be the case in Tours, France. All flights there just became unbookable after the end of August, am I right?
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