Ryanair - 7

[berkshire boy]

"Why not leave it to the professionals"
Perhaps not such a good idea. Wasn't it banking and investment "professionals" who got this country into the sorry state it's in now?

[wawkrk]

If MOL ever decides to change his strategy and become customer friendly like Jet2 for example, then many airlines will be wiped out.
His strategy reminds me of a sign on the door of a restaurant in Australia.
It read- Dress code:Smart casual or bugger off.

[Sober Lark]

Why some begrudgery here? The chap has already earned more than all of us in this forum have earned added together. If his work / life balance is as good then one cannot but be impressed. I wish him well.

[befree]

FR currently running aircraft carrying approximately 300,000 passengers each per year which even at an average current fare of €39 plus €11 ancillary gives them every asset generating €15 million a year over a 6 year life span plus inflation thats €100 million. On an asset that costs €30M to buy, even adding in fuel, maintenance, staffing you would expect each aircraft to give you €15 Million net over a 6 year life span in profit and a hell of a lot of cash before selling it on for a tidy sum.

FR is parking more planes up each winter and increasing sector length as if looks for new markets, 300,000 pax per plane per year will drop over the next few years. Also looking at the accounts for year to march 2010 they made million euros 1.375 million euros per plane, which equates to 8.25M over 6 years per plane. The fuel cost is rising 1 million euros per plane per year. that mostly wipes out the profit unless revenue goes up.

I have repeated said FR will not go under - what it will do is go ex-growth and make start making a loss. When is very dependent on the price of oil and the Eu wide downturns. A less agressive FR may be a lot better FR,

[racedo]

FR is parking more planes up each winter and increasing sector length as if looks for new markets, 300,000 pax per plane per year will drop over the next few years. Also looking at the accounts for year to march 2010 they made million euros 1.375 million euros per plane, which equates to 8.25M over 6 years per plane. The fuel cost is rising 1 million euros per plane per year. that mostly wipes out the profit unless revenue goes up.

I have repeated said FR will not go under - what it will do is go ex-growth and make start making a loss. When is very dependent on the price of oil and the Eu wide downturns. A less agressive FR may be a lot better FR,

You get funnier and funnier as you take any statement they make as always being negative and nobody would ever have the capability to do something about it.

Aside from being incapable of tell anybody why passengers will desert Ryanair in the millions and how they will lose millions I think I will put you "analysis" up there with Chicken Little and the Guy wearing "The End of the World is Nigh" sandwich board for its accuracy.

So why did they dismiss you ?

[cesare.caldi]

Ryanair new route BGY-Lodz and TPS-PEG

[clareview]

Fed up with all this talk about some airlines not charing for baggage and others charging. The fact is that they all charge for baggage, check in, costs etc, etc - no business does things for free. Its simply that some airlines like Ryanair and, it seems more and more, choose to separate out the figures while others quote a composite figure.

Instead of slagging Ryanair off (are you jealous of its success?) lets let the market decide as it does with every business.

[befree]

The list of why a few million people stop flying ryanair would be very long but there are always new pax to replace them. The probelm is FR needs millions of extra pax par year and that means they have to do a lot more than replace those who stop flying with them. It is not that they will get say 10% less pax but they may get 10% less pax per plane. They are going to have around 300 planes which means thay will need about 90million pax per year to get 300,000 per plane per year.

The bad press the FR gets will not help, for example in todays papers about a childs accident on Ryanair.

Ryanair review urged after child falls while boarding plane | Business | The Guardian

[Sober Lark]

Shocking as such an accident is, it was a unique event and the changes to Ryanair's behavioural matters resulting from the investigation have more than likely reduced the probability of the occurrence of a similar event.

[TSR2]

The AAIB recommended that Ryanair review its passenger boarding and disembarkation procedures "so that assistance is made available to passengers accompanied by children and those with special needs".

I do not know of one single airline that provides any form of assistance to passengers with children or senior citizens when boarding the aircraft.

[Icare9]

child falls though gap.

Does parental responsibility not exist any more in these 'elf n safety mad times?
Obviously the 3 year old was too young to understand the danger, but that's why a parent is supposed to ensure that their child/ren are under their supervision.
Accidents do happen, even when utmost care is taken, that is a part of life. It's not 100% risk free.
There was a similar incident recently regarding Qantas when a child screamed "in a passengers ear" so she sued the airline, not the parent....
So, the next time I'm on an aircraft and the child behind kicks the seat repeatedly, should I not ask the parents to control their child but ask the hostess for a claim form?

[ara01jbb]

I will often make a dash towards a seat in 1A/B/C when flying FR... means a quick exit at the other end. I've often watched families boarding and pondered the implications of the huge gap between the aircraft doorway and the air stairs.

As an architect, if I design a building that meets current UK building regulations, no ballustrading to stairs, landings, balconies etc must have openings wider than the approximate diameter of a baby's head. Yes, I'd agree it's elf'n'safety'gorn'mad, but it does go to show the different circumstances we operate under. Ryanair depend on their airstairs for keeping airport costs down and turnarounds nice and quick. One more errant toddler and this whole issue could turn round and bite FR very deeply in the derriére...

[bia botal]

As an architect, if I design a building that meets current UK building regulations, no ballustrading to stairs, landings, balconies etc must have openings wider than the approximate diameter of a baby's head. Yes, I'd agree it's elf'n'safety'gorn'mad, but it does go to show the different circumstances we operate under. Ryanair depend on their airstairs for keeping airport costs down and turnarounds nice and quick. One more errant toddler and this whole issue could turn round and bite FR very deeply in the derriére..

all good points but to be fair it's a boeing design and so it's a fault on there part and that of the FAA that approved it. And as far as airstairs and quick turn around times, in my experience, if the cost and inconvenience of a second set of portable stairs could be overcome turn arounds would not be delayed in the least.

[FR1A]

Bia Botal....


Don't forget, there's a limitation in strong winds and mobile steps.

[racedo]

The list of why a few million people stop flying ryanair would be very long but there are always new pax to replace them. The probelm is FR needs millions of extra pax par year and that means they have to do a lot more than replace those who stop flying with them. It is not that they will get say 10% less pax but they may get 10% less pax per plane. They are going to have around 300 planes which means thay will need about 90million pax per year to get 300,000 per plane per year.

The bad press the FR gets will not help, for example in todays papers about a childs accident on Ryanair.

Ryanair review urged after child falls while boarding plane | Business | The Guardian

Is that it ?????????????

Your own claim is that only 15 Million people fly them a year and now a few million will stop flying them BUT aside from a story which relates to incorrect supervision by a parent and is down to aircraft design not an airline you have NOTHING else.

You still haven't told us why you are no longer with them.

[Jamie2k9]

Ryanair Winter 2010/11 ski

Ryanair have announced ski routes. There are only routes from Dublin, Stansted, Gothenburg and Stockholm. No other UK airport has flights to Turin or Grenoble this winter but they did last year.

[jdcg]

On the subject of winter flight programme, does anyone know if FR are likely to increase number of flights to SZG this winter? They currently have just 5 flights a week loaded. It's not that long ago that there were 21 or at least 14 a week over winter. Has SZG become too expensive for them or is this just all part of the general downturn?
My in-laws live in the area so we're regular flyers on the route.
I note that AB will fly there 4 / wk from STN for the first time this winter...

[RAT 5]

Gap in stairs. If this has been identified as a 'elff & saftey hazard on this type of a/c, then I assume that all operators within the EU have been mandated to apply a strip of cellotape, as has RYR been. Was it an IAA order or was it self initiative? Have any other opertors followed suit? Close to home there are other IAA & UK CAA operators of this type. In who's country did the accident happen, and does that country have B737 operators. It would seem odd if any CAA could mandate just one airline. If it was a RYR intiative, then perhaps they deserve some applause.

[Jamie2k9]

On the subject of winter flight programme, does anyone know if FR are likely to increase number of flights to SZG this winter? They currently have just 5 flights a week loaded. It's not that long ago that there were 21 or at least 14 a week over winter. Has SZG become too expensive for them or is this just all part of the general downturn?
My in-laws live in the area so we're regular flyers on the route.
I note that AB will fly there 4 / wk from STN for the first time this winter...

Wednesday - 1 flight
Friday - 2 flights
Saturday - 3 flights
Sunday - 2 flights
Monday - 1 flight

They have reduced flights from Dublin from 5 last year to 2 flights this winter.

It isn't the cheapest airport to fly to. They may increase flights but with AB now operating 4 flights weekly its hard to say.

[Facelookbovvered]

I suspect that given the rise in APD due in Nov? that much of Ryanairs reduced winter program will be along the lines of "stupid English tax rise is anti tourist" In reality they are just reducing capacity to match reduced demand. Why fly routes in winter to lose money? most of their aircraft can be parked for free or little cost at new bases, a number of crews are on flyby the hours so if they don't use them they don't pay for them simple.