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I would have really enjoyed those landings especially being noisier than the 737/A320.
This is the best bit of news for the airline industry and unemployed pilots for quite some time.Whether the Embraer has thrust reversers or not and debating same is going wildly off at a tangent and irrelevant.Stay focused chaps.
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BE's new Humberside to Malaga scheduled service averaged 108.5 pax per flight in June. This is very positive!
Does anyone in the know have an incling or info as to whether BE's offering of sun routes from HUY will be expanded next year?
Kind Regards
Mike
Does anyone in the know have an incling or info as to whether BE's offering of sun routes from HUY will be expanded next year?
Kind Regards
Mike
Air Berlin have joined One World, and as ABTN reports,
"BA will be Air Berlin's alliance sponsor, helping the airline through the joining process"
As BA own 17% of Flybe, why haven`t Flybe joined One World to increase routes and passenger flow??
or,
is it in the pipeline now the jet order is on?
will they join Star Allience through Air France/KLM??
BA will just buy up the rest of Flybe when floated???
"BA will be Air Berlin's alliance sponsor, helping the airline through the joining process"
As BA own 17% of Flybe, why haven`t Flybe joined One World to increase routes and passenger flow??
or,
is it in the pipeline now the jet order is on?
will they join Star Allience through Air France/KLM??
BA will just buy up the rest of Flybe when floated???
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Originally Posted by Serenity
As BA own 17% of Flybe, why haven`t Flybe joined One World to increase routes and passenger flow??
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Why would BA want to buy Flybe when it was delighted to get rid of its regional operation to Flybe not that long ago. BA's record with regionals is interesting - Manx Airlines, Manx Airlines Europe, Cityflyer, Brymon, BA Connect etc.
Is it not more likely that Air France will show interest bearing in mind its long relationship with what was then Jersey European (operated BaE146's in Air Fr colours from Heathrow to regional airports in France), how it took over Cityjet and subsequently VLM and Scot plus the new Air Fr/Flybe codeshare?
Is it not more likely that Air France will show interest bearing in mind its long relationship with what was then Jersey European (operated BaE146's in Air Fr colours from Heathrow to regional airports in France), how it took over Cityjet and subsequently VLM and Scot plus the new Air Fr/Flybe codeshare?
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You are spot on. AF have every intention of purchasing a chunk of BE within the next two years.
If BA's current 15% is not enough to prevent BE from entering an extensive codeshare with one of its major competitors you may well ask how long will BA want to keep the stake. With BA's sights being more spanish in its future, you can be sure they will offload their BE holding quite soon.
You are spot on. AF have every intention of purchasing a chunk of BE within the next two years.
If BA's current 15% is not enough to prevent BE from entering an extensive codeshare with one of its major competitors you may well ask how long will BA want to keep the stake. With BA's sights being more spanish in its future, you can be sure they will offload their BE holding quite soon.
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Well, I dont really know if the Cork Airport Authority are interested or not but I am more than happy to get down on both my bended knees to beseech, implore and beg for FlyBe to review whether it might be interested in making a return to Cork from Belfast and to also consider the viability of a Southampton Cork service as well even if it was two to three times a week.
The Q400s and the ERJ 175s to come would seem at first glance to be an ideal frame for many Cork operations.
Thank you.
The Q400s and the ERJ 175s to come would seem at first glance to be an ideal frame for many Cork operations.
Thank you.
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Yes, and better still, base a Let 410 or Do228 in Cork and starts flights to BHD and Southampton and maybe, Coventry? If they could get their hands on something pressurised like a Jetstream 31/41 it would be better not that I dislike the Let which are actually quite nice aeroplanes.
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If Manx 2 take up BHD - ORK, it would need to be direct and not via GWY as they do with the BFS route. Also, BFS to ORK only operates 2x weekly, BHD to ORK would need to be at least daily or better still 2x daily - honestly can't see it.
As for Flybe, don't hold your breath - they themselves seem to have lost interest in developing any further at BHD and don't currently operate to ORK from anywhere else. I suppose a Loganair franchise operation might be a possibility but could Loganair spare the aircraft?
I think the best option would be Aer Lingus Regional if they can spare the aircraft operating 2x daily for the business fraternlty.
Just hope someone will step in.
As for Flybe, don't hold your breath - they themselves seem to have lost interest in developing any further at BHD and don't currently operate to ORK from anywhere else. I suppose a Loganair franchise operation might be a possibility but could Loganair spare the aircraft?
I think the best option would be Aer Lingus Regional if they can spare the aircraft operating 2x daily for the business fraternlty.
Just hope someone will step in.
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As for Flybe, don't hold your breath - they seem to have lost interest in developing any further at BHD
Would love to see FlyBE operate routes to some business centres in Europe, possibly codeshared to allow onward connections. Frankfurt, Brussels, etc. Business friendly BHD and smaller aircraft than the likes of EZY or EI.
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I don't think they really tried with the Humberside, very little if any advertising. I therefore think they were not too bothered if it operated or not. The Guernsey is a nice route for the summer to add to the Jersey, but it is a shame that they dropped the Rennes to make room. The couple of times I operated it the previous summer I thought it at least payed its way, and have had a couple of people tell me that it is a shame its gone as they used it to get down to second homes in Rennes in the summer.
I believe Flybe are happy with what they have operation wise out of BHD and I don't think you will see flybe adding any new routes to europe any time soom. Remember that any european routes would take the aircraft out of BHD for a relatively long period. Especially if flying down to Germany. Both the dash and the E195's have full schedules with UK domestics in the afternoon at the moment (does get a lot quieter in the winter) and the business men and women want frequency. Therefore chopping out some of the rotations in my view would not be a smart move.
We seem to be happy to stick to the domestics and leave the European routes the EZY. Maybe if we got an E175 here in BHD you might see some new routes but I don't think we are that high up the list to receive one. Would like to be proved wrong though.
With regards to the BHD Cork route, I would put Manx2 as been more likely to take it over than Flybe. If we really wanted to start it we would have. Also is there the demand for a 78 seat aircraft? And again there is no room in the early morning schedule to do an early rotation at a good time for the buisness traveler without another route making way.
I believe Flybe are happy with what they have operation wise out of BHD and I don't think you will see flybe adding any new routes to europe any time soom. Remember that any european routes would take the aircraft out of BHD for a relatively long period. Especially if flying down to Germany. Both the dash and the E195's have full schedules with UK domestics in the afternoon at the moment (does get a lot quieter in the winter) and the business men and women want frequency. Therefore chopping out some of the rotations in my view would not be a smart move.
We seem to be happy to stick to the domestics and leave the European routes the EZY. Maybe if we got an E175 here in BHD you might see some new routes but I don't think we are that high up the list to receive one. Would like to be proved wrong though.
With regards to the BHD Cork route, I would put Manx2 as been more likely to take it over than Flybe. If we really wanted to start it we would have. Also is there the demand for a 78 seat aircraft? And again there is no room in the early morning schedule to do an early rotation at a good time for the buisness traveler without another route making way.
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Has anyone heard anything about BA selling off its short haul network to Flybe, to start summer 2011 and to be announced next week?
Just heard a crumour and wondered if anyone could shed any light?
Just heard a crumour and wondered if anyone could shed any light?
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When prodded for an response re: BHD-ORK by a colleague, BE's response was:
Which could mean just about anything.
My hunch is similar to those above, that it would only work if it's at least twice daily during the week. But I doubt whether the BHD based Q400s have any lee-way in their busy morning / evening schedules. One of the Loganair a/c that visit BHD would perhaps be a better fit capacity wise, but that would mean all manner of re-jigging the schedules to make a reasonable W-sector.
</uninformed speculation>
We are evaluating the potential of this route, and may decide shortly if there is a viable operation to be offered.
My hunch is similar to those above, that it would only work if it's at least twice daily during the week. But I doubt whether the BHD based Q400s have any lee-way in their busy morning / evening schedules. One of the Loganair a/c that visit BHD would perhaps be a better fit capacity wise, but that would mean all manner of re-jigging the schedules to make a reasonable W-sector.
</uninformed speculation>
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Has anyone heard anything about BA selling off its short haul network to Flybe, to start summer 2011 and to be announced next week?
Just heard a crumour and wondered if anyone could shed any light?
Just heard a crumour and wondered if anyone could shed any light?
Maybe LGW/GLA/EDI/MAN??? could come sooner??
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Rumours of Flybe taking over BA shorthaul at Gatwick have been been doing the rounds for ages. No doubt this new order of E175 has only added to it. If this is a new one about taking over ALL of BA shorthaul (LHR + LGW) then its a new one to me.
I'll believe it when I see it.
ara01jbb
Sounds like Flybe haven’t discounted it then. I know they have said in the past when other people have asked whether we are going to start a route (DTV-LGW when bmi dropped their LHR springs to mind) that we have no plans to do so. So maybe we might give this a go. As you say it could mean anything.
Got to love specualtion
I'll believe it when I see it.
ara01jbb
Sounds like Flybe haven’t discounted it then. I know they have said in the past when other people have asked whether we are going to start a route (DTV-LGW when bmi dropped their LHR springs to mind) that we have no plans to do so. So maybe we might give this a go. As you say it could mean anything.
Got to love specualtion
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BA Gatwick 737s were recently reported to be staying for the medium term which suggests no plans too off load the network. Also Flybe's link to Air France would tend to suggest Flybe feeder would be to Air Fr rather than BA long haul (though of course it is but a shadow of what it once was at LGW)