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At the end of the day I suppose it just depends which market you are targeting. Generally Flybe goes for routes which need a smaller aircraft, where as EasyJet go for routes that need bigger aircraft. Going back to Flybe, im sure our E195 crew would be more than happy doing an over night flight to Poland and back
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Wizzair flew BOH-Katowice and Gdansk for a short time, easyJet flew BOH-Krakow and Ryanair flew BOH-Wroclaw. None of them lasted because the drop in Polish people living in the South was too significant after the boom in Polish influx of 2006 and 2007. Polish routes from the whole of the UK have somewhat fallen. But i still do believe Warsaw would be good from SOU/BOH. whether Flybe do it i'm not sure. Flybe were probably concerned if they went on the SOU-Polish routes that a LCC would do the same from BOH. But i think that is unlikely now so Flybe should be OK to explore. I would suggest 3 weekly flights with an E-195 118 seats. Having said that, Poland - UK is a low yielding market and it may be more suited to larger aircraft, lower fares.
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Just think your limiting the routes you can operate by having a bigger plane. Makes sense to have one type but why not a small plane? You can operate far more routes and if you need extra capacity just add more rotations. More frequency is only going to be welcomed by customers
Unfortuantely the site is currently undergoing maintenance, but there was quote on anna.aero recently about Norweigan being prepared to sacrifice some routes as it reties it's B737-300's, replacing them with larger B737-800's.
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LOT operated the E-Jets from WAW-DUB-WAW for a couple of years mind you it was usually a choice between pax and fuel or fuel and bags but rarely both on the same plane!!
Nice planes but a mini clubman estate has a bigger baggage capacity!!!!
Nice planes but a mini clubman estate has a bigger baggage capacity!!!!
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I agree with Nakata and adfly, either way I think its worth a try especially with an overnight stop as with all these new aircraft coming they are going to need to park them somewhere.
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I expect Flybe to expand with flights over to Scandinavia, more routes to Italy, Spain and possibly intra France before you see Flybe moving into Poland. Also generally Flybe seems to avoid night stopping crew and aircraft away from base.
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with all these new aircraft coming they are going to need to park them somewhere.
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No need for night stops abroad, just overnight flights, 10PM departure from SOU, 2-3 hour flight, hours turn around and then back to SOU for the first landing of the day circa 6AM. The plane would then be available for a 7AM departure.
When the E170 arrive it would be nice to see BCN on the SOU route map. Other potential destinations maybe FCO, MXP, MUC and CPH
When the E170 arrive it would be nice to see BCN on the SOU route map. Other potential destinations maybe FCO, MXP, MUC and CPH
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Totally agree darren. All of those routes on the face of it look like they would work. Shame about not doing night flights. Am amazed how much power pilots and flight attendants have in airlines. Seen enough collapse already as a result of their stubborness.
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It's not stubborness on our part mate, there aren't enough pilots or cabin crew to cover 24 hours of flying.
The other reason would be lack of aircraft to cover the early morning departures should something get stuck somewhere over night. Remember these current routes are the bread and butter of Flybe's business. There are precious few spares as it is to cover the usual schedule without adding to their commitment.
The other reason would be lack of aircraft to cover the early morning departures should something get stuck somewhere over night. Remember these current routes are the bread and butter of Flybe's business. There are precious few spares as it is to cover the usual schedule without adding to their commitment.
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Well sure that needs to be taken into consideration but I think we were refering to when the new aircraft came online and presumably extra crews. I was of the impression there were many pilots on furlough, if not they could always introduce more sponsorship places.
Teleparty - I can tell you don't work for Flybe.
No pilots waiting to return to work, management were very good at not laying people off and getting new contracts to keep busy over the past 18 months!! Due credit where it is deserved, they have done well there and with the new Finish contract too, but people are already working max hours at many bases!
However shiny little jets won't keep people if management don't settle the current dissatisfaction with rosters and pay. There may be lots of MPL cadets to come, but many experienced people from both seats are likely to walk soon, so they won't keep what they have let alone increase numbers!!
No pilots waiting to return to work, management were very good at not laying people off and getting new contracts to keep busy over the past 18 months!! Due credit where it is deserved, they have done well there and with the new Finish contract too, but people are already working max hours at many bases!
However shiny little jets won't keep people if management don't settle the current dissatisfaction with rosters and pay. There may be lots of MPL cadets to come, but many experienced people from both seats are likely to walk soon, so they won't keep what they have let alone increase numbers!!
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Re your suugestion re nights flights.
As the majority of the FlyBe flights are aimed at the Business Market howver to be fair they do carry a lot of Leisure Traffic.
Who would want to do a Night Flight certainly not the business Traffic.
I doubt the Leisure Business could make sense because it it could pay they would be doing it
Just my thoughts
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As the majority of the FlyBe flights are aimed at the Business Market howver to be fair they do carry a lot of Leisure Traffic.
Who would want to do a Night Flight certainly not the business Traffic.
I doubt the Leisure Business could make sense because it it could pay they would be doing it
Just my thoughts
Regards
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Through fear of losing my reputation of upsetting the apple cart to Teleparty.....can we please change the subject and get back to Flybe?
Does anyone know what the advanced bookings are like on the Manston - Manchester route?
Does anyone know what the advanced bookings are like on the Manston - Manchester route?