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Old 28th Dec 2011, 16:04
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Ejet and ABZ/LGW

But you may get to operate the odd charter or from other bases.
And a Dash from the summer although crewed from MAN i presume that'll just be the flight deck.
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Or, perhaps they are on leave because it is Christmas time?
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I hear BE are changing there IOM BHX timetable for the summer to base the plane in BHX instead of at Reynoldsway. Anyone know owt?
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Old 28th Dec 2011, 20:30
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Not heard anything at the BHX end of things but that is not too unusual.

However the current BHX summer schedule is quite tight for the nine based
aircraft due to Inverness now operating BHX-INV-BHX rather than INV-BHX-INV.

Also the third BHD departure operates 4 out of 5 weekdays at 11.10 leaving virtually no spare capacity for French destinations, which at present have been greatly reduced with Bordeaux gone, Brest and Bergerac weekly only.

I wonder if they intend to use the IOM aircraft move to BHX to do BHX-IOM-BHX-various French destinations-BHX-IOM.

I have absolutely no idea of the profitability of the BHX French routes but I was shocked at the cutbacks especially Bordeaux as that carried reasonable loads compared to some others.

Also BHX-Lyon is under review by Brit Air/Air France and again is this another destination that flybe might be looking to take-over, which would be ironic if dropped as it is finally bookable on the flybe site having taken a while to get sorted after the announcement of the Air France joint venture?

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Old 28th Dec 2011, 20:36
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Puzzling move that would be. Their total IoM pax numbers are only 2.5% down to end Nov, despite the rapacious Easyjet gobbling up their northwest traffic. Basing 4 airframes at Reynoldsway gave them huge tactical advantage when one of the Q400's went tech (and that is perhaps now regarded as inevitable these days). So why change a winning formula?

Unles they plan to make IoM all an E175 operation..

The central planners know best, of course, but I am amazed at the cut backs we have seen to the January schedules, far beyond those in previous years. Are we as a community sinking that low financially? If so we have bigger worries to deal with than FlyBe scheduling.
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Old 28th Dec 2011, 21:00
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Aberdeen

Reading that Flybe are to put a DH8D into ABZ in March, to join the E170.

There's an extra BHX rotation that seems is going to be operated by this aircraft, but anyone know what else Flybe intend to use the 8 for out of ABZ? Presume it is not just there to operate an extra BHX!

Thank you.
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Old 28th Dec 2011, 21:41
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DH4 ABZ

Maybe they are going to operate ABZ-MAN-ABZ

to relieve the MAN A/C ????


Who knows what going on at EXT in the planning Dept (someone does)


It will all come out in the washing ???
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Old 29th Dec 2011, 17:47
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I accept that the timetable can be changed, however for summer 2012 it is currently showing a timetable as per now - so IOM - BHX at 0720- and 1800 with returns exBHX at 0850 and 1920.

Given the very iffy reliability when using a BHX based a/c a couple of years ago the current arrangement using an IOM based a/c works well. If there are technical isssues they do have the option to use a BHX a/c by doing the evening schedule in reverse eg BHX-IOM-BHX.
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Old 30th Dec 2011, 01:52
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Also BHX-Lyon is under review by Brit Air/Air France and again is this another destination that flybe might be looking to take-over, which would be ironic if dropped as it is finally bookable on the flybe site having taken a while to get sorted after the announcement of the Air France joint venture?
Another site has listed a 25th March end date for that route, but still bookable beyond that.

This may have been mentioned before, but can anyone explain why GLA-CDG is listed as 'direct' - including a pop-up saying 'no stops, no changes', when it is routed via CWL?
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Old 30th Dec 2011, 22:43
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Erm, it doesnt it says via Cardiff - well during the booking process anyway. It is not a Flybe connection as such so maybe any reference to direct is just a selling point. The passengers do not need to disembark on the GLACDG sector
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Old 31st Dec 2011, 09:36
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Or maybe they plan to operate it as a direct route like they tried from BHD a few years ago.
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Flybe Shares Drop on Waning U.K. Sales, Failed Fare Strategy - Bloomberg

Flybe Group Plc (FLYB) fell as much as 30 percent after Europe’s biggest regional airline said demand for travel in its main British market is deteriorating and that it had failed to push through planned fare increases.
U.K. domestic sales, which make up about 70 percent of Flybe’s revenue from the country, fell 8 percent in the third quarter ended Dec. 31, with sales last month “particularly disappointing,” the Exeter, England-based company said today.
Chief Executive Officer Jim French has responded to the decline by seeking to maintain market share rather than lift fares. French has said he’s seeking purchases and deals to provide flights for major European carriers seeking to exit regional routes requiring aircraft with fewer than 100 seats.
“All that people might see right now is disappointment, but once the market stabilizes it’s very exciting,” said Andrew Fitchie, an analyst at Investec Securities in London with a “hold” rating on the stock. “There is opportunity there in the medium to long term, but it’s going to be a bumpy ride.”
French said in a statement that it was “the correct decision to protect the long-term potential of Flybe” in securing market position at the expense of yield or fare increases. The company, already Britain’s biggest domestic carrier, boosted its share 2 percentage points, he said.
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Old 10th Jan 2012, 12:31
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...an overreactive stockmarket and a nervous, twitchy bunch of analysts.
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Old 10th Jan 2012, 13:12
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They have said for ages that the UK domestic market is saturated. About time they expanded their horizons and looked more to Europe??
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Old 10th Jan 2012, 13:30
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Apparently they are. Watch this space for coming European bases. Or base, initially.
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Old 10th Jan 2012, 14:32
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Can't help but think that last years financial report which talked about the "lost revenue in the region of £12m due to the freak winter weather" has come back to bite us on the backside.

I had hoped Flybe were going to announce we'd done rather well so far in light of the mild winter and perhaps realised a healthier turnover than last winter, but clearly, 8% down on last year? And last year was poor.

Ouch.

Thank goodness we've not had use the deice fluid that much. (...so far!)
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Old 10th Jan 2012, 15:28
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It's getting a bit of a sad tale. Always jam tomorrow. Only thing missing from the excuses was wrong type of snow and leaves on the line
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Old 10th Jan 2012, 17:52
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Surprising really. Obviously less people are taking a plane domestically but flybe have the best equipment in the dash so maybe its about time they spread their bets further afield. Some more international routes at Southampton wouldn't go a miss!
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Old 10th Jan 2012, 21:53
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Rivet Joint - not really surprising. If you put the B team (and that's being polite) in charge of the main part of the business as the A team goes off to set up the new group venture, you can't expect it to perform as well.

Jetstreamtechrecords - not really surprising either to see you here. One thing which can be said for Flybe is that they have to produce a set of comprehensible accounts, unlike the smoke and mirrors which are filed by a certain airline based in Humberside designed to confuse anyone, even employees. Why you'd keep defending RL when he pays himself £600k a year to run Eastern - more than JF does to run Flybe - is astonishing.
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Old 11th Jan 2012, 01:11
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Oh and now we have HS2! Do you really think London will farm out extra capacity to BHX and SOU? I bet my last £1 new terminal and runway at LHR opens the same day HS2 becomes live! RIP the regions!!
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