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Old 9th Jul 2016, 17:43
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Originally Posted by pug
DSA is relatively central, and could by your theory flourish should LBA close in favour of one airport. So why not focus growth in DSA?
The location is utterly critical to the predicted demand. It is to do with West Yorkshire urban area, the importance of Leeds City region but more important main arterial motorway and main rail (including HS2/3) connection. Would LCR be happy for DSA to be its airport when it has an airport that is admittedly less than ideal? 8 million people at the other end of a railway line is rich pickings even if you take just 2% of it.
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Old 9th Jul 2016, 17:50
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So you're readily admitting that it is not about Yorkshire, it is in fact just about Leeds.
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Old 9th Jul 2016, 17:56
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Originally Posted by Andy_S
Just as you, I believe, have made some gigantic assumptions about the nature of the aviation industry.
Possibly but you still made assumptions about the critical florists. Which is key. The Government will hopefully have learned their lesson after the last 2 weeks. You can give us HS3 but unless you pay our fares to use it 10x per year to MAN - then it would make more sense to give 9 million people an airport that works properly.

I'm going in for my tea now.
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Old 10th Jul 2016, 00:49
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HS2 Parkway

Latest HS/2 parkway proposal station at M18 Bramley will only benefit DSA....but years away. Catchment population is not an exact science for air travel... If LTN is cheaper Yorkshire people will travel to LTN. Florist analogy is flawed because there arn't that many. Think supermarkets.. Morrisons, Asda, tesco, all sell the same products in same local accessibility. Flight travel is no different, all offering same product it comes down to price and availability of product. 1-2 hours to an airport is not a great deal on the one day you travel for a summer holiday, but 1 hr max will dictate convienience for a business flight where the company are paying. LBA currently offers more product than other local regional airports, so will win the market as long as the prices are as competitive as the next most accessible with similar pricing.
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Old 10th Jul 2016, 09:22
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Plenty of people travel every day from Leeds/Bradford area to work at MAN and so a few times a year to fly cannot be a big deal for others. MAN is a Yorkshire airport in several ways. Think bigger.
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Old 10th Jul 2016, 17:02
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Leeds Approach's argument that people from S Yorks and Humberside would flock to Church Fenton could equally apply to people from W Yorks using DSA. It's close to the M18 and the M1, has a big runway and capacity to expand if demand exists. Church Fenton would be, what, 35-40 mins from Sheffield? DSA is only 40-odd minutes down the A1 / M1 from Leeds
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Old 10th Jul 2016, 17:33
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LBA is actually quite well located for the West Yorkahire passenger. If there were to be one Yorkshire airport, then Wakefield would have been the place to put it. Alas, the opportunity was there in the 60's (in the form of an airport at Ferrybridge) but Whitehall left airport development - outside of BAA - up to local authorities. Local authorities took a largely parochial view, hence the current situation in Yorkshire.

LBA may well suffer from adverse weather, and it doesn't have the longest of usable runway length, but there is no evidence to suggest this has held it back. Careful planning and investment could in theory double capacity. It ultimately comes down to whether there truly is the will, and the demand to do so.

As far is long haul is concerned, there is only room for one major airport along the M62 corridor. MAN has the critical mass, along with the strong market to lower the risk to operators. There is no evidence to suggest that the likes of Emirates or united would want to serve a Yorkshire airport. If - in the unlikely event that they did - provisions could be made at one of the current ones.

All that said before we even go into the physical constraints of Church Fenton, and the fact it frequently suffers from adverse weather too..
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Old 10th Jul 2016, 17:43
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I do agree, as most do, that LBA's transport connections are holding it back. A relief road is sorely needed
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 08:12
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Oh my goodness, I got bored and lost reading LA's lunatic ramblings.

As a recent passenger I can tell you exactly what stops people flying from LBA. .
it worked out cheaper for two of us to drive over to MAN and fly than drive the 45 minutes to LBA. It was quick, easy and convenient.

Another airport isn't going to solve that. Unless you want it to run at a loss for the next 200 years to pay back the loans maybe?

I appreciate the economics aren't simple, but consider this, the most commonly used commercials are 737 and Airbus 3xx series aircraft. So how is the addition of one 787 to the US a month going to suddenly make a Yorkshire airport a huge profit. The people who run LBA probably have a much greater understanding of the economics of the site/available catchment. North of Leeds (where I live) is not exactly what you would call overpopulated.
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Old 19th Jul 2016, 17:35
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Old 22nd Aug 2016, 14:03
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A quick bump to put us back on the map if we don't mind? Presumably LBA has shut as this thread has gone deathly silent
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Old 22nd Aug 2016, 14:51
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Yup..all packed up and moved to Church Fenton
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Old 23rd Aug 2016, 10:47
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Originally Posted by paully
Yup..all packed up and moved to Church Fenton
Please no, not again, I cant take it hahahaha, ive just started to enjoy these forums again.
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Old 23rd Aug 2016, 14:29
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im with you all the way on this one.
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on a different note!! does anyone know if the multiflight web cam still works!!
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Old 4th Sep 2016, 20:26
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I understand the Multiflight webcam has been permanently withdrawn.
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Old 8th Sep 2016, 08:39
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BBC North reporting that Leeds East (Formerly RAF Church Fenton) has been granted a CAA licence to operate charter flights to Europe from Spring 17.


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Old 8th Sep 2016, 08:57
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I contacted multiflight and that's what they told me! such a shame i loved to view it.
thanks for the reply..
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Old 8th Sep 2016, 09:08
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BBC North reporting that Leeds East (Formerly RAF Church Fenton) has been granted a CAA licence to operate charter flights to Europe from Spring 17.


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I have just ssen the news article in regards to Church Fenton! hardly going to have much affect on LBA or Doncaster with its V.I.P nonsense and 1000 return flights to and from Malaga. think i will stick with jet2 lol
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